Sprite Discovery Discussion

I'm liking the new sprites so far, but I'm having an incredibly hard time seeing Melan Shinxel's nose, I think it's not dark enough, it looks like it just doesn't have a nose.

hi as a fan of shinxel i have some Opinions i would like to discuss bc i did not REALIZE the sprites were getting changes and adrenaline is coursing through me this is all done in good humor and is not meant as an attack and as such this entire post has the /joke and /lighthearted tone indicators -smaller ears make sense species wise but are slightly offputting -why is fluxray bald please give them back their hair,, -eyebrow markings on shinxel are gone this is the worst day ever other than that good job!! very cool sprites!! remember this whole post should be taken with the intention if it being lighthearted bc i cant seriously do this for the life of me

shiny fluxray has eyeliner now and i find that very, very hilarious. in a good way.

I have nothing againts the revamp in itself, but Shinxel's face looks... flat? Compare to the others two of their line, they miss some lighter shade on their head which make them a bit akward looking. I also don't really like the new albino and melan, I liked the yellow albino ones since they are rarer compare to purplish or pink albino xD While green doesn't seems to... fits Shinxel really well. Tho it's my personal opinion on it, people can probably get behind green melans.

im with rencringe and everyone else on this one, the sprites are cute!! but the small ears remind me of a monkey lol. im not really digging the black tufts on the face, it kinda looks like a beard? i miss when it was markings against the face haha. its nice that it looks less like a recolor but i guess it misses the marks in some places!! question about a different sprite revamp though, what happened to the apoc. growlithe revamp? putting the link in a hide just in case its a spoiler the other ones that got revamped first got revealed in the advent calendar but it seems apoc. growlithes advent picture is still the old design. was the new sprite maybe scrapped (which would be a shame!) or is it not going to be released yet?

In any other case I'd hate the melan changes to the Shinxel line, but.. I love the melan changes. I'm a sucker for that cyan/teal-y color and I think it looks really good on them even if I still wouldn't call them 'melanistic'.

hmm it might be cause the nose is rather light but also lime green over the dark, it may not be light enough. A possible solution is a manual edit to have shading around the nose or maybe bright the nose more. Tysm for the heads up Thank you for clarifying that it was a joke, I did have a chuckle ^^ Shinxel line were of a couple variants that were updated via live stream some months ago that I hosted with Garth's help. As seen, they were given an OK to update during the 12DOC. Only the 3 lines right now, yes, but (an I believe this will answer moodawdaw's previous question) a number of other Variants will also be getting the love and care soon. It'll just be some time as I, along with the rest of art staff have been busy, and I've mainly reserved to revamping to Live Streams and maybe my free time. Shinxel line was of lines that were being revamped due to Shinxel line actually being just a recolour of Shinx line with Buizel line colours and not actually blended together as a fusion. To answer: - the ears were made smaller similar to other semi-aquatic mammals, an was made smaller due to Buizel line's having no visible ears. It was pretty much being a inbetween of a Pokemon with big ears and another with No ears. I do understand its a small detail to get use to. - Not bald. But I do understand that'll be something. It was apart of blending the lines together. The hairstyle is Buizel's line but made longer cause of the floof that is Luxray. But the amount of hair before would've slowed Fluxray down in the water, so it fitted even more with me. An it fitted nicer to separate the noraml and the mega a bit more, with Mega have Luxray's floof to charge an discharge so much electricity. - I see that eye brow at 1st glance that it seems like larger eyes, I can check into that soon when I'm available. Possible solution is lining and shading those areas a bit better. tysm! Glad its a good way but also I'm very much enjying these eyeliner comments ^^ I had to double check Shinxel to check that. Shinx is very similar with that flat look on its face, with the highlight ONLY being on the headtuff. I can possibly go an fix that on Shinx as well as well as adding it to Shinxel, tysm for pointing it out! hmmm I think the green is nice, personally. But Aye I understand its not everyone's cup of tea. But TBH, there needs more yellow albinos >> While not with Shinxel and part of its fusion, I would SO love it for other Pokemon. Monkeys aren't the only mammals with them ears, an Chimchar line has shown us they be BIG lol but I understand. particially said with RenCringe, the smaller ears were made as a inbetween of the large ears an no ears. I had sevearl examples of ears, but it was between these ears an keeping the normal ears and the smaller was the nice inbetween when redesigning the fusion. As for the markings. I, personally, think the Markings being done over the tuffs is really hecking cute. I moved them to be together since they were around the same spots and I didn't want to remove the tuffs of fluff from Shinx an Luxio. On Fluxray they remain as just markings. To answer about the other revamps I did, like the Apoc. Growlithe you have there. The Apocs are of those not revamped/finished yet, so they won't be brought to the site til at a later time. Like said above, I mainly have been doing revamps via live streams and since my last one I haven't done more, due to Gen 8 and other personal situations that have been happening. So, Only Apoc. Growlithe and Apoc. Golett were made and completed since then. I'll be sure to let ALyssaNights know, she's worked on the recolours for the 3 Variant revamps c: In short This. This in a nutshell.

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for those interested, here's the Concept I made for the Shinxel line ALL The way back before Mega Fluxray's debut. The ears were bigger in the concept, which later was made smaller. Here's the concept made for Early Bird line, and Here's the concept I did for the Blue Moon line.

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I believe there was a few questions on Early Bird that some people had before? Sorry for not answering. Its rather late, so pardon for not quoting.

@novan-chan thank you for replying! :D it seriously helps anyway, i understand the ears and tufts better, especially with the concept art. i think that maybe releasing new sprites (revamps, new mons, new forms, etc) with the concept art would be helpful? it helps to show the thought process behind it because being slapped with the final can be a bit scrambling sometimes, seen with how a lot of people jump when new sprites come out including me lol. about the tufts, i think them in the concept art /are/ really really cute. but i dont think it translated well into the sprite, i think they look a bit odd with them being stuck together. maybe if the two tufts were separated to be more like two whiskers (one single tuft more towards the top of the cheek and one single tuft more more towards the bottom of the cheek), but thats just me, hope thats not too nitpicky lol i agree with nightmon about the forehead being oddly flat/plain, it works on shinx because its a softer blue and it works on buisel because there is not a lot of open forehead on it, but shinxel is a bright orange with a big forehead which can make it obvious and look almost a bit unfinished, especially when its side-by-side its evos. i wouldnt argue against the forehead-eyebrows being brought back instead of the eyelid-eyebrows but.... the forehead highlight would probably be the only essential change besides also relining the eyelid like you said, i hope you can do so at some point ^^ about cramorant and pokemon with the same gimic, i feel like fun should sometimes trump realism. if it catches the first thing it sees, whats stopping the low chance that a regular might find a melanistic? or at least a shiny or albino? i get the logic, but sometimes logic is less enjoyable. i just at the very least dont want cramorant to be changed and im sure others feel the same xD thank you for answering about the apoc. sprites! im so happy to hear they werent scrapped and im really excited to see the whole set when its done ^__^ (again, i seriously love the new apoc growlithe sprite) anyways again thanks for replying, it helps to see what the original artists were thinking and i am excited to see more sprites get updated so thank you, cheers!

Aw, no, I do rather like the carmorant with the shiny/albino/mlean variant of pikachu line in its mouth. Don't change? Please?

I agree with Moodawdaw, shinx doesn't need to be change. I'll try to explain why too! Compare to shinx, shinxel seems to have a smaller head, there is also a lot going on its face compare to shinx sprite. Shinx have an all blue face with big ears and a darker shade who make its face pop up. Luxio and luxray having now black on their face, a lighter shade is added to add more depth. Shinxel doesn't have only one color on its face, it have three, the lighter shade of yellow from buizel and the black "whiskers". These details make it harder to see its face as "round" and it look rather flat instead. The rest of his line doesn't have a color added to their face, yet they have lighter shades on the top of their head, shades who doesn't even appear on buizel line. It work on them, it's making them pop out since they have a bigger head than buizel and floatzel (who doesn't need ligher shades as it could make it harder to see their face xD). Hope I've sums up my thoughts well! Other than that, I think that their resprite are very good and I can't wait to see how good the others Variant revamp would look! Edit: Also about the "But TBH, there needs more yellow albinos >> While not with Shinxel and part of its fusion" I'm curious about the why? Shinxel old albino was yellowish and it looked good on it.