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QUOTE originally posted by DemiDanni
"I think the pokefarm community should give something back since we're asking for more transparency and thats patience and not resorting to jumping the gun when changes are made, criticism? Fine and good, but blaming the staff for necessary actions or changes and saying mean things to them? Not so much."
Yeah we do give something back--our money, lol.
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I said id stop im not going to respond to the actual message because i dont want to argue but i want to clarify that when i said "entitled users" I am in no way referring to the people who reacted incredibly negativly or posted critism, I am refering to the people that pmd artists with unwarented critiques.
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I'm going to say something, but even if you give company/business money it doesn't give you the right to treat people in a manner that you wouldn't wish to be treated yourself.
The idea that people believe that they can is the same entitlement that people believe that just because they buy coffee at a Starbucks that they can shout at the staff serving the coffee because they got your order wrong. There's a reason why a lot of places have rules where even if you're a customer and if you're rude to the staff you can and will be removed from their property.
No, just because you pay money into something doesn't give you that right.
Finally, the art staff are volunteers - they're not paid. None of the staff are, we're all volunteers.
I get it, you want transparency, but there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot that hiring another person to give 'updates' isn't going to achieve anything.
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Edit: Yes, we could have waited for Garth's response, but the way Niet worded the update, it gave me the same vibes a PM from a mod gives. The "you messed up so badly I'm about to ban you for a million years and I'm not even going to tell you why" vibe. So I think the player responses were just inline with the tone we got from Niet's message.
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QUOTE originally posted by Constantine
I'm going to say something, but even if you give company/business money it doesn't give you the right to treat people in a manner that you wouldn't wish to be treated yourself.
The idea that people believe that they can is the same entitlement that people believe that just because they buy coffee at a Starbucks that they can shout at the staff serving the coffee because they got your order wrong. There's a reason why a lot of places have rules where even if you're a customer and if you're rude to the staff you can and will be removed from their property.
No, just because you pay money into something doesn't give you that right.
Finally, the art staff are volunteers - they're not paid. None of the staff are, we're all volunteers.
I get it, you want transparency, but there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot that hiring another person to give 'updates' isn't going to achieve anything.
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It's good that people believe this, but from a staffs point of view looking in. It's a completely different matter. That's what happens when you can't read tone because there is none through text. While you may not wish to be attacking or across as it - well, you know how it goes.
My comment was a broad sweep, not just for the posts here but just for the general basis of what's going on.
I don't expect people to hold staffs hands and treat them as if they're fragile little clay dolls. But it's always good to read back what you're saying and think, what does this read like looking in.
Just woke up.
This actually interested me so I decided I'd look in to the statistics because it was mentioned in the DevLog that statistics are quite interesting... So uh, here you go.
If we look at all users, ever, and ask if they've ever had any interaction with ZC... then 92.7% haven't.
If we narrow that down a little bit to 'people who have hatched at least 100 eggs' then we get to 70%.
If we then change that to 'people who have hatched at least 1,000 eggs' then it swings in the other direction where 68% of people *have* had some kind of ZC interaction.
I'm not doing this to specifically show anything... It's just something that interested me and I thought it might be interesting to you guys too.
Personally I think this horse has been beaten for long enough and people are just going around in circles now. Time to stop and move on. I feel like We all get it at this stage. Could have been handled better but are understanding of the reason why what happened, happened - fair criticism has been offered on the matter, and some unfair, but it is what it is. It seems like the going in circles is resulting in raised tensions and I just don't really see the need for it. The feedback is appreciated but I think we can stop now. c:
QUOTE originally posted by Teaques
Because the overwhelming majority of them still buys ZC
Personally I think this horse has been beaten for long enough and people are just going around in circles now. Time to stop and move on. I feel like We all get it at this stage. Could have been handled better but are understanding of the reason why what happened, happened - fair criticism has been offered on the matter, and some unfair, but it is what it is. It seems like the going in circles is resulting in raised tensions and I just don't really see the need for it. The feedback is appreciated but I think we can stop now. c:
QUOTE originally posted by Garthic
Just woke up.
This actually interested me so I decided I'd look in to the statistics because it was mentioned in the DevLog that statistics are quite interesting... So uh, here you go.
If we look at all users, ever, and ask if they've ever had any interaction with ZC... then 92.7% haven't.
If we narrow that down a little bit to 'people who have hatched at least 100 eggs' then we get to 70%.
If we then change that to 'people who have hatched at least 1,000 eggs' then it swings in the other direction where 68% of people *have* had some kind of ZC interaction.
QUOTE originally posted by Teaques
Because the overwhelming majority of them still buys ZC
Any interaction at all :)
If it made their account number go from 0 to 1, that's an interaction - same for 0 to 100, so on and so forth :p
So I'm not talking about people making purchases - trading, being given a gift of ZC -- literally anything.
QUOTE originally posted by Garthic
Any interaction at all :)
If it made their account number go from 0 to 1, that's an interaction - same for 0 to 100, so on and so forth :p
So I'm not talking about people making purchases - trading, being given a gift of ZC -- literally anything.
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