Daily backup failure + potential changes
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QUOTE originally posted by Niet
I mean basically, if we need to rollback from a backup, things are already really really bad and there'd be a lot of compensation to go around - even if it's just rolling back a few hours!
If you were to plot a graph of "badness over time rolled back", then it'd obviously start at zero with zero roll back time, massively jump up, then stay pretty level after that.
Realistically speaking, rolling back a few hours is already so bad that rolling back a few days isn't actually significantly worse...
That's why I'm leaning in favour of weekly rather than daily backups. The upside of not having 20-30 minutes of downtime every day is actually quite a positive effect.
I didn’t read the majority of the thread, but in theory, would it be possible to back up only certain parts of the site daily, and then backup other parts weekly in a longer backup period?
For example, backing up owned pokemon and items daily while shelter and other things backup weekly?
Just a thought and I don’t know either the possibility or the downsides to something like this, tbh
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@Kiryu You have to consider that you're one of thousands. One person would indeed have a lot of variation between a few hours and a few days. But overall looking at the whole thing, there isn't much difference.
I have 24 hours a day, I can wait 20 minutes for a backup.
I don't have the inner strenght to recover a week's worth of progress given the case of a server failure right before the backup starts.
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I'm play on one other petsite besides PFQ and to reduce lag in general (and probably make a backup, idk) they have a half-hour downtime at rollover every day. They've been doing this successfully for nearly six years now without too many complaints beyond "oops forgot it was rollover -_-". Now, maybe no one complains because it's a fact of life, but any change made to a site will become a fact of life pretty quickly. I'm always asleep for rollover on that site, whereas I'm active online around rollover here and would probably notice extra downtime if it happened at rollover (when does that downtime happen, anyway? You mentioned it happening every day but I've never noticed), but that's a personal time zone problem and absolutely has no affect on the site population as a whole. I think it's good to stick with daily backups.
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I can see why weekly would be better, but i feel like daily is a lot better.
If there is a lot of infomation to back up, once a week may take several hours to back up due to the backlog of infomation it has to duplicate. And i feel that might be worse than a daily backup. 20 minutes a day, compared to missing out on several hours in a day, It seems more like the 20 would be a lot better.
On top of that im paranoid and honestly would be better for my mind if it's backed up every day ;v;
BUT do what you guys feel is more efficient, if weekly makes it easier on the system, then do it weekly. if daily is better on the system, do the daily ;v;
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QUOTE originally posted by Niet
@Kiryu You have to consider that you're one of thousands. One person would indeed have a lot of variation between a few hours and a few days. But overall looking at the whole thing, there isn't much difference.
QUOTE originally posted by Mystery-Penguin
If there is a lot of infomation to back up, once a week may take several hours to back up due to the backlog of infomation it has to duplicate. And i feel that might be worse than a daily backup. 20 minutes a day, compared to missing out on several hours in a day, It seems more like the 20 would be a lot better.
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this just my opinion not sure if someone has brought this up in more detail or not but what if you guys do both the dailys and weekly Backups, the only difference being that the daily backups are for core important saves and the weekly is for everything.
I personally think continuing with daily backups is the safest option. This is the way its been for awhile, and there haven't been any problems. I don't see much of a point in changing it. c:
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