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People were doing Credit-hunts via the Supplier perfectly fine before the "partial refund" thing was added in the first place, and Credits have only gotten to be easier to obtain since back then.
QUOTE originally posted by söbble
I mean... these last two updates have literally only hurt some of your most active, paying customers.
There's literally no way to get enough credits for a lengthy supplier hunt without using ZC. Hunts can sometimes reach into the thousands with no melan and sometimes very little results.
Often, these users are also buying melans or DP with more ZC/real life currency in order to delta a few parties.
The only people who would ever even be able to attempt a credit hunt are either going to have to be here for years - dedicated active players - or be supporting the site financially - or both. I'm still not convinced anyone would ever have enough credits just by playing the game passively to even attempt a supplier hunt.
credits are hard enough to get in mass as it is - if you guys are worried about credits being taken out of circulation you would leave it as it is. Because hundreds if not thousands of eggs being ordered versus none being ordered is still getting rid of credits. The supplier is way overpriced anyway.
if y'all want to hurt your own site thats your business i guess but i dont get it
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QUOTE originally posted by selocon
Last time I checked, by massclicking Elta I can get ~5k credits or more. Plus, have you ever done a mass clearout of your inventory, that's probably 100k+ right there. Not to mention, you can sell box boxes for 500k credits, assuming only one box a day that's 3 weeks for half a legendary egg.
Of course, that's one box a day. Averaging my boxes, I get roughly one *per mission* assuming I collect every hour they return, that's one day for a box box. 2 days for a legend egg.
So supplier-hunting legends is perfectly possible and rather easy to maintain assuming you have both scour boosts and save your boxes. Also sell your extra specials and you've recouped part of your cost there too.
So, two days for one egg at full price. Let's take a scenario where someone needs 1,000 eggs to get a melan - and that's not necessarily realistic, but it's an easy number.
That's 2,000 days. Of never doing anything but clicking and scouring and selling everything you ever earned.
that's seven and a half years. And nae's hunt of over 3,000 would be over twice as long as the site has even existed
Also, just throwing this out there, but in the tournament I've been trying to make 60k clicks a day. I've barely made more than 100k credits.
Y'all are being unrealistic when you say you can just sell hunt spares, too. It doesn't work. My talk finis - one of the CHEAPEST legendaries - won't even move. I've sold one. At a discount. I know l'm not the only one with this issue,
Any way my opinion is this update only hurts the site and punishes its active and paying users for no reason. The only supplier hunt I really cared about is already done so it's no skin off my nose but I'm sad you'd want to push an update to hurt pfq that literally had no reason to happen.
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QUOTE originally posted by söbble
So, two days for one egg at full price. Let's take a scenario where someone needs 1,000 eggs to get a melan - and that's not necessarily realistic, but it's an easy number.
That's 2,000 days. Of never doing anything but clicking and scouring and selling everything you ever earned.
that's seven and a half years. And nae's hunt of over 3,000 would be over twice as long as the site has even existed
I think the problem here is that certain hunts are so inaccessible, people have to resort to "cheating" to make them happen. And even WITH the abuse of the refund system, it still seems like a ridiculous amount of currency.
I kinda get why so many players quit now.. if your favourite pokemon just happens to be an ultrabeast, ditto, arceus, type null (+ other hard to get summoned pokes) then you could be waiting literal years before you can even start looking at completing your goal, if you want a shiny or albino... let alone a melan.
Imagine how impossible this would seem as a newbie. It makes me tired just thinking about one of these hunts.
I'm glad the cheating was stopped, but kind of not surprised people saw it as a necessary way to hunt, considering how near impossible it is.
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QUOTE originally posted by Niet
Of course, abusing the refund system to get half-price Eggs make it "only" 3.75 years, which is so much better :p
QUOTE originally posted by Niet
Of course, abusing the refund system to get half-price Eggs make it "only" 3.75 years, which is so much better :p
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Why removing the refund but not the possibility to actually lose the egg? It such a easy fix. It is not like the daycare which you have no need to spend actual thousand of credits for only one egg. Or just make it longer, like 48h before being automatically released. That way it is less like punishing to just wanted to hunt a legendary by using the supplier?
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QUOTE originally posted by Optimus Prime
But honestly why are we having this conversation? If you want to melan hunt something like a legend, heck even an unbreedable exclusive you would need to have dropped a few bucks on the site anyways. If a f2p player is doing a melan hunt like that, props but also... why? Haha good luck though
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