Disallowing "Grab Bags"

list of prizes: 1 shiny moltres 50 shiny magikarp (just examples bare with me) the owner hands out a magikarp to all the buyers and puts the moltres in a hidden field everyone who got a karp assumes someone else got the moltres. ta-da, scam. and a very hard one to pick up on if there had to be a list of what everyone got.. then it would be different. but again, not everyone would look at the lists on every single grab bag, and scamming people would still be fairly easy by "disappearing" the top prizes and putting a random username on the list saying they got the prize. who would bother to check when there's 40+ people on the list? it's just too easily abusable that's not even getting started on items...

The thing is, you're paying for grab bags, but you don't have to pay to enter in a raffle.

And if you do, such as the owner enforcing a prize pool, there are rules to ensure everyone gets something in turn.

Still no answer on why PFQ Boxes aren't considered gambling? :V (Re: If grab bags are gambling, how aren't boxes gambling?/Comparing gambling of grab bags to gambling of AAA lootboxes) Is it because you can get them for 'free' by spending time to earn them without currency? Does it stop being gambling if purchasing them for currency or real life money is only optional and for people who don't want to wait hours to get them? (As seen in lootboxes for BF2/OW?) Is it because we've used them so much we more or less already know what chances there are of getting something rare or bad? Does knowing the chances stop making it gambling? (Like how we knew the chances for OW's boxes?) Is it only gambling when the chances are unknown or if the chances are unfavorable? And on a related note, is it not gambling because it's an official site's RNG and we can trust it because of that, unlike grab bags? (Like how every loot box is also determined by official RNG) Is it because you don't /have/ to gamble but sell it to someone who'll take that risk? Does someone purchasing something from you for the chance to get more than what they paid for it not make it gambling because /you/ didn't have to gamble? Is it because you can only obtain some items through the boxes themselves, items you can't purchase directly from the site? (Summons/Mega Stones) Is it because you can pay real life money to directly purchase boxes? Oh, wait...Those are some of the worst hated aspects of lootboxes.... I'll make this clear, I don't think PFQ's boxes should be gone, or that they're bad even. I'm just trying to get people to think about what the real issue is here, and what is reasonably acceptable/unacceptable and why. (Hint: It is not because something that could be labeled 'gambling' under such broad terms is something wrong. It is wrong when (at least IMO) A. There is deliberate misinformation/lack of information and/or B. It is on a large enough scale and affecting/meaning so much to so many people that it becomes a problem. It's real, reaaal silly to compare giant AAA games with their audience size to the audience size of PFQ. I don't think PFQ boxes are harmful because they simply aren't worth as much to nearly as many people than do expensive prizes in immensely popular AAA games. That's when people can really lose so much money, when the cost of the prizes climbs up to hundreds of thousands of dollars, and there are so many people that also recognize that worth, and there are so many potential people to be allured to that and try their hand to win it. I'm not saying it's impossible on PFQ, but highly unlikely. There may be small cases of people spending much more money on here than they should, but not nearly enough to warrant the cause for alarm that games like BF2/CS:GO/OW/etc are producing. And to compare AAA lootboxes to PFQ user grab bags is just.....ludicrous. No one's gunna go bankrupt because of a grab bag, even if they clear out every single seller's entire stock of prizes. PFQ stuff just isnt worth that much money. (If they're reckless they //could// lose a good amount of money if they really tried, but again, how is that different than spending that money on boxes?) But, I digress. Way too much.)