This looks amazing! I’ve been so excited for this!! My favorite is the removal of the RNG factor between pairs. being able to optimize makes me so excited and happy. My only concern is using gems for the red gig. It takes a TOOOON of gems to hit wishalloy, and as such gems are always always valuable. this is reflected in the market very clearly in my opinion. I don’t really want gems to get more expensive ): i don’t see a benefit to giving them more value honestly other then that i’m hyped!!

I have to say I also can't say I like the V~wave affecting my breeding pairs as well as the red gigaremo change, either. Getting caught on a bad luck of v~wave days just kinda sucks, really. Same with needing gems to power the gigaremo. The V~Wave thing is kinda self-explanatory. But for the gigaremo, I also thought that happiness was the cost to using it. As well not only do you need gems, which you already need an abundance of in the first place to upgrade your badges, but the type of gem is also going to affect how good or bad that it helps my pairs breed? I like the idea of the Gigraremo being charged I guess, but gems? No, I cannot say I like that. I hutn variant and exlusive pokemon a lot, and knowing that just activating the gigaremo if I don't have the right type of gems, it's basically gonna screw up the breeding. I'm fine with all the other updates like natures helping compatablity and the balancing between evos and everything, but those two things are ones I find hard to stand by.

nice, i was just about to ask about any updates for this phase! i've been holding onto so many quiet mons just waiting to be paired lol. i gave everything a quick skim for now so i'll read more carefully when i have the time, but overall it looks interesting! initially, the added cost of gems with the gigaremo took me aback for a moment, since they're a little costly to get in the first place and a bit cumbersome to use at times (with having to keep a pair's happiness up with tons of sweet hearts or easter eggs). but considering the overall improvements to breeding chances / compatibility in general, i think it should balance out in the grand scheme of things? (personal feelings on this may or may not change once i read through the technicalities more thoroughly but i think the only way to tell is to sit with the phase for a while and see how things actually feel to work with) i'd say i'm looking forward to this phase and thank you for keeping us in the loop! ^^

Most of this seems fine but I just cannot get behind the v wave change, how are people supposed to change up their breeding for the daily v wave when hunts are an extended thing? Most people who use the daycare use it for hunting, it can takes weeks or even months to hatch what you want and saving every chain is expensive if you're serious. Plus for type race that'll make people feel like it's rigged, types can repeat due to the rng nature. The entire team could take a hit due to terrible rng when the v wave already boosts the exp, faster hatching and breeding doesn't seem fair :/ Edit: also less eggs means you're fighting more to claim eggs in the shelter as everyone else hunting that pokemon will also take a hit, I don't feel like fighting every other user for one egg tbh

Interesting with the V-Wave. Since it will be based on the parents delta, could it potentially also allow you to hatch the eggs in your party as the matching delta if you have all the V-Wave buffs? Like, example, Bug V-Wave, I have a Bug delta pair - if I still spend DP on the entire party because the parents and V-Wave match up they would all be bug delta children. This would be nice for people looking for a certain delta coloration but it still gives randomness to Pokemon that cannot be bred/legendary mons.

Wow!! These are all super exciting updates and very welcome and needed buffs to the daycare center! I am super excited for the twin eggs aspect, also the egg base boost. I see some complaining over the V-Wave and Red Device updates but I dont have many thoughts over those. I also am very happy you are making the breeding system a lot more coherent and understandable for users to easily curate breeding pairs instead of hoping RNG will bless them. To me, on paper this seems like a great update! I hope the coding and outcome is smooth.

Would it help if I lowered the base compatibility by 16, and then made the V~Wave a pure buff? Numerically it's exactly the same, after all, but now V~Wave isn't a penalty... Or I can keep things sensible, with "base value" as neutrality to the V~Wave, and up or down as appropriate. New players with a Red Gigaremo? I really don't think that's a concern... V~Wave would be a Dynamic Modifier, which updates in real-time and is unrelated to Base Compatibility. Pretty sure Cactaboo is already coded in, last I checked!

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Yes, you absolutely can use Delta typing to minmax the V~Wave modifier ;)

I'm hesitant about the v-wave change, but I also can't mental math to understand what the resulting values will be. If the "absolute best" pair with the "absolute worst" v-wave effect is still 100%, then I'm less concerned. But if a bad-luck string of v-wave is taking me below 100% for days I'll be bummed.

seconding shirarisun here. v-wave affecting compatibility simply is awful. there's already a disruption in balance with boosting exp rate, but adding that to lowering compatibility, or raising it? That causes a massive disruption, allowing certain TR teams to gain a massive boost. here's the problem i see: v-wave is ground you have 2 viable electric mons in the daycare. Ground TR get a 50% buff to exp and increased breeding rate and Electric TR gets compatability lowered with nothing to balance it out? i genuinely see no upside to this. especially when newer players are wondering why their pokemon have compatability fluctuating on a daily basis.

I perhaps would not have said it as negatively as others, but I'm not a fan of V~Wave being able to decrease the breeding chance. In my experience people completely ignore the V~Wave while hunting since hunts stretch over many days/weeks and V~Wave is constantly changing. So the V~Wave negatively impacting breeding is just randomly saying that on certain days you won't be able to breed as many eggs for your hunt. For the Gigaremo change, I personally think that a matching gem should allow happiness to drain slower than the current rate. It doesn't have to be significantly lower, but I think it shouldn't be a straight nerf to the Gigaremo, I don't feel like it was strong enough previously to warrant a total nerf. But I do think the gem-cost system is probably a better system. Those two things out of the way, I love the rest of the changes. The party interactions change is fantastic, I think that was really smart. And I'm looking forward to there being no more RNG in putting together breeding pairs.