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Guys, I messed up. I messed up bad. When the prices were being set for the Tournament Prize Shop, I didn't factor in that Tokens could be traded. The prices were set as if they were only good for individual progression. For example, having to grind 2-3 weeks for Tokens and then sacrifice your ability to unlock Fakemon Eggs just to get a Korokunite seemed like a good balance. But when you factor in the ability to trade Tokens, suddenly things get thrown way out of scale. For evidence of this scale problem, there are users who have already unlocked and successfully Shiny Hunted some of the Fakemon, before they were even available as a Tournament Top Prize. It's clear that something needs to be done. I absolutely hate nerfing things, but in this case there really is no alternative. You may have seen that the Prize Shop has been tempoarily crippled, in that you can no longer buy items from the Miscellaneous Prizes list (although you can still get Eggs and Pokémon from there). We're working on figuring out better prices for the items, bearing in mind that Tokens can be traded for. This will mean that individual progression will be very difficult for getting Über-rare Items, but you will be able to either trade to receive more Tokens and get them, or sell your Tokens on a hopefully improved market. In addition, something needs to be done about the unlocking. Again, thanks to trading, some people already have all four unlocked, and XD001 to boot. This change will be rolled out next Season, since changing it now wouldn't solve anything. Starting in Season 2, there will be conditions on unlocking Fakemon from the Prize Shop. You will only be able to unlock a Fakemon if: - You have won it as a Top Prize from a Tournament OR - You have participated in a certain number* of Tournaments offering it as a prize OR - The Season it belongs to has ended * 2 or 3, not decided yet I offer my deepest apologies for the inconvenience caused by my mistake, and I hope these changes will help Tournaments become a feature that contributes towards the site's longevity. EDIT 16:00 - The Prize Shop "Miscellaneous Prizes" section has been updated with new Token prices, which have been implemented following calculations taking the ability to trade into account, as well as the original value of Über-rare items. Most notably, an item that has a less than 0.25% chance of appearing in a Box should not be available for just one (or in a few cases, two) weeks of relatively light grinding.
I also want to clarify a point about shinies, albinos and hunts, since things have been adjusted since the initial announcement. All Eggs given out as Top Prizes, to people who placed in the top 50 on the Leaderboard and claimed it from the Prize Claim, bypass the Shiny/Albino checks. This means that they will NOT break your Shiny Chain, nor will they require an Egg Pass to hatch. However, this also means that they cannot be Shiny or Albino, unless it was the one Egg that was rigged to be that way. These Eggs/Pokémon are account-locked. All Eggs purchased from the Prize Shop behave as normal. They will break chains, they can be Shiny, Albino or Melanistic just like any other Egg, and the Pokémon that hatch from them can be traded. All Fakemon are in the "Undiscovered" Egg Group. This means they cannot breed under any circumstances. I hope this clears up confusion on that part.
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Welp no big deal ^^ New things like this take time to iron out and it only makes sense that things need to be adjusted over time. I'm, persoanlly, glad it will be more challenging later on so that trading tokens doesn't make getting super rare items from the Prize Shop too easy. Good work on the Tournaments though! Super fun! Can't wait to see them evolve. <3
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Maybe the Tokens should be untradeable next season. That way people can't get Fakemon too early and the items would stay a bit more valuable. It doesn't really seem fair to make it required to do two or three specific tournaments just to unlock one Fakemon.
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I did not know that :O :( I got the XD001 with 1 of my 3 tokens earned, along with a sylveon... didn't know tokens were trade able :/ It would be unfair to just trade for tokens, so I'm a little surprised to see that people have even started hunting for exclusives BEFORE they got them as top prizes. Thank you for letting us know niet :)
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No prob man. It'll just require some trading finesse, or some priority setting. Maybe you could add another prize level as well?

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Thank goodness for the nerf - I just hope you can find a way to make sure items aren't totally unachievable for newer users who don't have anything to trade for tokens. Out of curiosity, did you guys consider making the tokens account-locked? That was my first thought when I saw all this going down. Then you wouldn't have to change the prices (much) - though that does create a problem for the people who already have traded. It's a tough one! Altering the Prices is also a good and very needed idea, I'm just a little concerned for how unachievable everything could turn out being. With regards to the unlocking in Season 2, though; does that mean that next season more than 50 will be able to get the new egg, if it's a requirement for unlocking it? It was very difficult to get into the top 50 this first time, especially when in the middle of a hunt. ^^;
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I knew this could not be meaning of tournament... Dindt make any sense but damage is done. Tokens should be account locked in my opinion. We all would have same chances and not people who has lot of stuff, would buy all tokens.. More fun if we could earn our prices
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Would it be possible to set a limit to the number of fakemon buyable with gold poke? It seems very abused at this current state.
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I honestly didn't think you would be able to trade the tokens away. Not until all the shiny hunts happened anyway... I kind of agree that tokens should just be account locked. It kind of defeats the purpose of the tournament if you're just doing it to sell the tokens to someone else, right? That's just my opinion though.
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QUOTE originally posted by PrincessLuna

With regards to the unlocking in Season 2, though; does that mean that next season more than 50 will be able to get the new egg, if it's a requirement for unlocking it? It was very difficult to get into the top 50 this first time, especially when in the middle of a hunt. ^^;
He did say either top50 or having participated in 2/3 tournaments where it was the top50 prize :) so as long as you even casually participate in a couple you should be able to unlock all eventually. Or if you can't once the season has ended they'll be unlockable for all as long as you have the required amount of tokens. These changes sound good. It was definitely all getting a bit out of hand (crying over demise of cheapish dragon balls tho)

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