Increase S/A/M Delta Point Value

I guess crash is not the most appropriate word in this instance, but forgive me I'm not sure how else to word it. I suppose it won't crash in the sense of things will go down in price dramatically, I just feel the market is in a really horrid place right now and it's not getting any better with the Uber changes. Perhaps within a few months we will see the difference as you said, but right now I'll I'm seeing is an increase in melans - melan pricing dipping because they aren't selling, less S/A and S/A prices not changing/adjusting at all. (If anything i'm still having to price things lower than I want to because they just do not sell anyways) I am worried if it's something we sit on and "wait to see" it will cause problems and things will only be worse. Whether there is little shinys/albinos/melans to sell, it doesn't matter if there are no buyers. Personally for me, half the time I just DP stuff because it's too annoying letting things sit in my fields for months, years, to not sell ever unless I price below DP Price - which is something that is still and will remain an issue. Melan values are going to decrease with them being increasingly common due to Uber changes, which will in turn lower Shiny/Albino prices - not increase them. But it is a guessing game, and there are of course my opinions/thoughts on the matter and changes.

Let me perhaps give my two cents on Deltas, not as a staff member but as someone who has played for 8 months, so my account value is not as high as those who have been here for years. To me, it seems that the Delta system is barely worth using. I have a few regular deltas that I wanted very badly, and after failing to buy them, I waited until the correct V-Wave came along to hatch them myself. I was lucky in that all of them came out correct the first try. I also tried a few times to do a "self-funded DP" hunt, where the DP came solely from the extra specials from the same hunt in an attempt to hatch a delta special. All of them were pure disappointments, and so I stopped trying. I would like to hatch a delta special someday, just as a bucket list sort of thing. Now that S/A chances have effectively been halved, I would require twice the amount of DP (and time and frustration) to do that. But every time I even think of DPing my hunt eggs, I'm reminded of the dozens of failed deltas that I previously hatched, and sold for a tiny fraction of the price of their worth in DP, and decide against it yet again. I personally suspect that the reason why it's so incredibly hard to sell DP for 2zc is that other people are also coming to the same realization. Unless you have a LOT of spare value in your account and/or you want a certain special delta badly for collection reasons, hunting delta specials is a giant sink which you will not be able to recoup even 10% of unless you hatch a delta melan (and even then maybe not). I have never once bought DP from anyone, because I feel that my currency is better spent elsewhere. I think that after the Uber change, S/A prices will go up. While it would be nice to sell my specials for more, it would also further cement my not interacting with the Delta system, because when I get a S/A it would push me even further towards "I should sell this" and even further away from "I should use this for DP" than I already am.

I'll add my two cents to this conversation. First so you know the point of view I'm coming from, I have never had much interest in deltas so my only interaction with the system is as someone selling my extra specials to others for DP. But ultimately I think that the delta system does need a rework in some way. As for this suggestion, while I don't think that this wouldn't devalue shinies and albinos themselves like niet said, what I think would happen is DP would devalue say to 1 ZC per DP but that would mean the shinies and albinos are the same price as before (assuming 2 ZC per DP now). I do also think that it would devalue deltas more though, although something being devalued that is practically worthless already, just means its still practically worthless so would it really change that much? This could also lead to more interest in hunting deltas which would be a plus for shiny/albino sellers since there would be an increase in demand. And demand is really the biggest issue in the shiny/albino market right now. Some other delta related ideas that I like: I like the idea that some others have said about getting some DP back from trading in deltas because it would have some use for the currently worthless hunt extras. I think that was a glaring issue with the system in the first place which is trying to solve the issue of devaluing/oversaturation of one type of mon (shinies/albinos) on the site by introducing a new type of mon (deltas) that will just become oversaturated/worthless. It solved the problem by introducing the same problem. Another one I liked was making DP tradable. I'm not sure if that thread ever actually got rejected or just deleted from inactivity, but I did really think it would have a positive effect on the shiny/albino market because allowing people to trade the specials in before selling them as DP would make shinies/albinos a little more scarce. Not to mention it would've also just been a huge QOL improvement because sending hundreds of shinies/albinos at a time can be so time consuming and tiring. Lastly, something that I just thought of (though maybe someone has suggested it before) that could warrant its own thread if people were interested is either introducing a new set of item or using the arceus plates to increase the chance of the specific delta type that matches, similar to everstones with natures. This wouldn't necessarily help with the issues raised in this thread but would make delta hunts a little bit easier because the way the system is now, having to use a different mon parent to get the boost just makes it so much more clicking intensive because you'd need (at least) 2x the clicks to get the same number of eggs. Feel free to pm me about this if you think it is good enough to warrant some more fleshing out for a suggestion since its a little off topic from this thread.