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2.0) Starting Out

IV breeding requires rather extensive knowledge of many site features, a lot of costly upgrades, and certain amount of activity. I recommend that you have established knowledge of site mechanics, as this guide will not teach you those. Some of the aspects you need to be familiar with are: how to navigate the Pokédex, find Pokémon you need, how to form breeding pairs, how to generate many eggs, find your eggs in the Shelter, obtain Shelter and DayCare upgrades, how to hatch eggs faster, etc. Please check out other Guides and PFQ Wikipedia first for more information on those. Guide recommendations: • The Beginner's Guide to PokéFarm QYour Guide to 90%+ Breeding PairsHow to Breed Variants!The Ultimate Wishforge Guide!

2.1) Important Items

All items listed here can be bought at the DayCare under the "Upgrades" section. You can buy them at lower price during Eltafez bonus day. Destiny Knot Giving any parent Destiny Knot to hold allows offspring to have an equal chance of inheriting five IVs from one parent, another, or mix of both, while the remaining sixth one is randomised. Only one Destiny Knot is needed as its effect doesn't stack and you can't influence which IV will be randomised or inherited. If both parents hold Destiny Knot, it won't increase IVs, or improve chances of inheriting better IVs. Known issues: • If you take Destiny Knot from the parent while you still collect and hatch eggs, offspring might end up having default three inherited IVs as system forgets parent had held it. This means you should never take it from the parent unless you are done hatching eggs this parent produced.

Niet's explanation

Quoted from the "Destiny (K)Not?" bug report thread.

QUOTE originally posted by Whit

Hi! So, recently I've been IV Breeding rookidee. When I went to swap out my breeding pair, I passed my destiny knot off to the new one. All eggs I had were bred when the original pair was holding the destiny knot, however, after switching it- they're hatching with random stats instead of inheriting their stats. Is this intended, that if the parents are not holding the knot at the time of hatching, that the stats are mismatched? I thought it would work that if the egg was generated at the time the knot was held, that the stats would pass on. TLDR: Does the Destiny Knot need to be attached to parents at the time of egg generation, or the time of egg hatching? Please let me know if this is a misunderstanding on my part. I'm confused. Thank you!

QUOTE originally posted by Niet

It's not exactly intended, but it's how it's coded. It was the best I could do and now we're stuck with it.
• In extremely rare occasions, offspring may hatch with completely randomised IVs.

Niet's explanation

Quoted from the "6IV Parents - Random IV offspring?" bug report thread.

QUOTE originally posted by Rebecca Gold

I was hatching eggs I took directly from the daycare. Both parents have 186IVs, with one parent, Togekiss, holding Destiny Knot and one of the offspring hatched with random low IVs. I released eggs from previous pair few hours ago and I never took away the knot. As you can see, offspring didn't even inherited default three IVs. All except one seem to be completely randomised as if it never had parents. I am aware this has been reported in the past but I don't remember it being addressed. Is this something that can be tracked down and fixed? Offspring: Parents: Rest of the party hatch:

QUOTE originally posted by Niet

IV breeding is, for some reason, not 100% consistent. It should be. I have no idea why it isn't. Unfortunately "inconsistent bugs" are the hardest to fix...

QUOTE originally posted by Rebecca Gold

Thank you for your reply! Does that "inconsistent bug" also apply to Master badge IV boost effect? I made a thread in Help but later realised it is supposed to be in Bug. I would really appreciate if you could reply to that as well. https://pokefarm.com/forum/thread/278989/Master-badge-IV-increasing-question-Possible-Bug

QUOTE originally posted by Niet

Quite possibly, yes.
Matchup Checker Matchup Checker is important for knowing the exact breeding rate percentage of your IV pair so you could decide whether or not you will be able to generate enough eggs to release them to Shelter, try to boost your breeding chances, or give up on that pair.
Default DayCare message DayCare message with Matchup Checker
SpyGlass The SpyGlass is a simple lens that allows you to identify the appearance of Eggs before you adopt them. It is extremely useful when breeding two different species in general, not just for IV breeding.
Default DayCare look DayCare with SpyGlass
Red Gigaremo The Red Gigaremo can be used to double the rate at which your Pokémon breed by lowering the amount of interactions needed to produce an egg by half. This can be very useful in cases of breeding pair with very low percentages. However, Pokémon happiness will gradually go down as you interact, and if it hits 0%, Pokémon won't breed. I highly suggest you read this post by Gumshoe as it explains in great detail how Red Gigaremo works. Warning: Be sure to turn OFF Red Gigaremo after you are done using it as it stays on even if you take out current Pokémon and add different ones. DayCare Passes DayCare Pass allows adopting eggs from DayCare after the adoption limit is reached. Each pass is valid for a single adoption, and is taken away when used. In cases where producing eggs is extremely difficult, and consequently Shelter hunting impossible, I suggest using DayCare Passes.

2.2) General Breeding Advice

I want to quickly give some general breeding advice. For further details on this, please read guide for breeding pairs by Suríya. When it comes to IV breeding, finding 5 or 6IV Pokémon to trade and pair up can be difficult as there aren't many active IV breeders around. In that case you will have to breed Pokémon from bad IVs to 6IV by yourself. This means that most of your pairs will have around 50% match or lower as they will have you as the original trainer. If your pair is below 20% match you should either consider getting another Pokémon to pair, or use Red Gigaremo. Since generating eggs require a lot of interactions, it is best to mass-click someone with over 5k Pokémon sorted by berry prefference in the fields. To find such fields, you could try checking out users on the top of the "Biggest Pokémon hoards" stats list. You can read more about interactions on the wiki page and this post by Cele, and how to mass-click in this post by Gumshoe. Maxing out Happiness to both of your Pokémon increases their egg productivity. You can quickly raise happiness by feeding Pokémon Sweethearts, or you can leave Pokémon in the field that either matches their type, or is super-effective against their type. Warning: Pokémon left in the DayCare are marked as "busy" and thus can't gain happiness while in the field so remember to take them out. You can read more about fields on the wiki page, and about happiness on the wiki page, as well as this guide by RedCydranth. Make sure Pokémon are around the same level and remember that Pokémon left in the DayCare gain experience even if you EXP Lock them. • If you want to reduce EXP gain in the DayCare, don't buy DayCare EXP Booster. If you already have them, give to some Pokémon to hold. • In case you need to reset Pokémon's level, give it Doom Seed to consume. You can buy 5x Doom Seeds at Prize Shop - Miscellaneous Prizes for 1x Tournament Token. It is also worth to note that Pokémon within the same body style group breed better than those with different. You can see Pokémon's body style when you check Pokédex entry under "Body style". Body style often change when Pokémon evolves, making it important to take into consideration when planning ahead Pokémon's breeding partners.
Pokédex - Sableye

2.3) Egg Groups

Egg Groups are categories that determine which Pokémon are able to interbreed. If two Pokémon share at least one same egg group, they will be compatible when paired and produce an egg upon breeding. You can check Pokémon's egg group in the Pokédex entry and field's tooltip.
Pokédex - Bulbasaur Field's tooltip
As of generation 8. there are 16 egg groups, and Pokémon can be in one or two egg groups that generally don't change upon evolution. List of Pokémon by egg groups found on Bulbapedia is not completely accurate for PokéFarm Q. Notable example is Nidorina which, in official games, is unable to breed due to being in the "Undiscovered" group (link), while here it is "Field/Monster" (link) and able to breed. Therefore, I advise to always check PFQ Pokédex for accurate information. List of PFQ Egg Groups: - Amorphous - Bug - Dragon - Fairy - Field - Flying - Grass - Human-Like - Mineral - Monster - Water 1 - Water 2 - Water 3 - Ditto - Unown - Undiscovered Ditto Group Pokémon Ditto has its own egg group. This allows it to breed with Pokémon from any group except Undiscovered and another Ditto. Unown Group Pokémon Unown are the only genderless Pokémon able to breed with each other. Breeding same two letters will always give bred letter outcome, while breeding with Ditto and two different letters will result in a completely different letter. I recommend using Unown breeding calculator by Eltafez to predict offspring letter outcome. Undiscovered Group Pokémon in this group are completely unable to breed. Majority of them are legendaries, the rest being baby Pokémon and new Tournament season PFQ Exclusives. The only exception to this are few legendaries that can be paired with another Pokémon to produce PFQ Variant egg. Important Notes: • Pokémon who are unable to breed are impossible to IV hunt, as they must be acquired by other methods such as Summoning, Supplier, Prize Shop, etc. Beside having Master Badge to slightly increase IVs, getting such Pokémon with high IVs is purely luck based. • Despite having egg group, genderless Pokémon are unable to breed with each other, or any other Pokémon except Ditto, making them the most difficult Pokémon to IV breed. • In case you get "(!) This couple may produce something unexpected!" message in the DayCare, please read this guide by Gumshoe which explains Variant breeding in detail. • Manaphy is the only legendary Pokémon who has defined egg group - Fairy/Water 1. It can breed with any female Pokémon, who shares at least one same egg group, to produce Phione egg. Phione, however, acts as any other Pokémon in terms of breeding. It is in Fairy/Water 1 egg group, and can breed with another Phione, or Pokémon that has same at least one of these groups.

2.4) Terminology

Pokémon have six abilities - Health, Attack, Defence, Special Attack (Sp.Atk), Special Defence (Sp.Def) and Speed. Each ability has its own IV value, and sum of those values are referred to as "IV Sum". IV value range from 0 to 31, and IV Sum range from 0 to 186. If a singular value isn't maxed out, value ranging from 0 to 30, it is called "bad IV". If none of the singular IV values are maxed out, Pokémon has "bad IVs", "no IVs", or is called a "regular IV". Example:
If none of the singular IV values are maxed out, but IV Sum is 140 and over, Pokémon has "high IVs" or "high IV Sum". Example:
Max IV values are in short called "31IV". Depending on how many 31IVs Pokémon has, they are labeled as "2IV", "3IV", "4IV", "5IV" and "6IV". Pokémon with only one 31IVs are often seen as regular IV, and very rarely labeled as "1IV". Example of 3IV Pokémon:
6IV Pokémon is also called "perfect IV", "max IVs", or "186IV", and it has the highest value in IV breeding. Example:
Some people like to label certain 5IVs as the "perfect 5IV". This means that Pokémon has bad IV in a column negatively affected by nature. This is often desired for battling purposes. Keep in mind that this only applies to Pokémon with the berry preference. Those with "any berry" preference or bad IV on Health value can't be labeled as such as they can't be impacted by the nature. Example of perfect 5IV:
IV breeders often name their IV bred Pokémon in a similar way, for example: • "xx00x0"; "x-x-O-O-x-O"; "x/x/31/31/x/31"- Simplistic naming method where "x" represents the bad IV, while "o" represents 31IV. • "3IV 162" - Combination of noting both number of 31IVs and IV Sum. • "3 IV health, attack, s.def"; "5iv (xatk)" - Specifying IVs is useful for many different reasons, but most common is to avoid constantly checking which are bad or good IVs. • It is common to see a username beside these names to indicate that Pokémon is traded.
Offering 20.000 for 6IV Ditto Disclaimer: I'm not native English speaker. Please read my posts and messages in calm and friendly tone, and do ask for further clarification in case of confusion. Thank you! ~
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