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- They were also incredibly saturated and very out of place - weren't consistent at all. Bright butter-yellow leaves and a black body isn't how the normal works. - The hot pink was also wildly inconsistent - the markings are lighter than the body and not super saturated. + Glad you like these! These seem to be super popular + wait til you see the melans - hands down in my top 5, if not top 3 for line updates. + Yee, Novie was super proud of this one. :)

While true, we go based off the color pallette more than anything, so we try to stick to how the palletes are rather than "does this thing have melanin in it?" like you said, it's pokemon, so we do have our fun with it.

Like Shazi mentioned above, we try to not use colors that were present on the normal or shiny sprites, so the albinos and melans tend to lean towards colors that weren't used in them - these just happened to be an abundance of blues and purples this time around.

Electabuzz, Sunkern, and Raikou suffered from that same thing you mentioned - parts that were meant to be darker (or black) were suddenly lighter than the body, which was very inconsistent. :p

wot. I'm not seeing how these are indistinguishable.

normal and shiny Houndour/doom have orangeypink and yellow snouts respectively. They just look more 'normal' because they were pair with colors that make them look not so out of place. I can see the argument for mega houndoom, but imagine how it'd look with white bone. This is why we use an 'aged bone' sort of effect for the melans since having something stark white on a melan looks.. well, odd. But have you seen shiny mega houndoom? Red snout, blue body, white horns. It looks sun burned. :P I'm not sure I follow with what you're saying for Larvitar - my apologies. ^^ I'm glad you like the rest though :)

Also like Shazi mentioned, it's not green - is bloo. Albino suicune was wildly inconsistent as well: + The mane should be a different color from the body - the old one didn't reflect this. + The crown is darker than the body, but the same color. could be adjusted to be a little darker. + On the old one, it was hard to distinguish the spots from the body + The new one was made to have the body more pigmented, keeping the pink and changing the made to an icy blue. Like mentioned in my othrer response, the normal isn't super light - there is some pigmentation, so we made the body pink and made it so the spots were more visible. As for why that pallette was chosen for a firey pokemon, well.. I mean.. they firey colors were already used for the normal and shiny. xD While the Raikou pallette was nice, the stripes should've been much darker than the body - not only marginally darker. Also, can I just say how I love you compare them to food? Yer so adorable <333 That's the official artwork, though. We go based off of sprite work, and the horn on the sprite, to cut down on colors, uses the same colors wherever it can. If you look closely at suicune, you'll see that it appears like the body doesn't really have any shading.. but upon closer examination, you see why: [youtube]IDKAWbe0Z70[/youtube]

At the time we didn't think to update the kanto megas since we were in the middle of Mega Lookback and doing OTHER megas. We had a lot more on our plate at the time - they will be updated though. A few were revamped, but not all. I know Novie responded to ya, but I'm just adding on ;)

Shiny sunflora, when compared to the normal, absolutely looks wilted and hella desaturated. This was reflected in the melan. Also, they ain't turning into black blobs. :( If we wanted them to be black blobs, they'd all be very dark with no color pop at all. Give us a little more credit, yeah?

We never once said we wouldn't consider changing colors. Customer satisfaction is very important to us, but so is making the site look like it wasn't made by someone with no sense of color coordination or style. Like you mentioned, neon rave parties are coming to an end, so the stark contrast between old-and-new is very apparent. While we understand that users hunted or bought certain albinos and melans because they liked the old palette, we NEVER hid the fact that these were getting updated and some of their favorites are going to be changing. We never hid this and stated bltantly, on more than one occassion, that things are changing and unfortunately, that's what must happen in order for us to improve. People are allowed to not like something - that's fine. I've actually got a spriter application drafted, but they won't go up until after Garth and Niet settle into their new house because.. it's a large task to bring new people on and with Niet and Garth in the middle of moving, and, ultimately, making the administrative decisions (don't get me wrong, Artists are my thing and they trust me to hire people, but they're MY bosses) they want to be comfortable with where they are so we can properly integrate members into our team. I want a focus on people who can do scratch work - recolors are covered. I need people who can build something from either a concept or nothing. ^^; The art team we have now is very varied and we work very well together - we know eachother's strengths and weaknesses, so we help eachother and encourage growth where applicible. Any one given sprite is usually the effort of 2-3 artists - rarely is one sprite fully done by one person.

Mentioning this first part since Shazi addressed the others. On the albino radar page, you can see that you're absolutely correct: As for the rest, things can always be reviewd and re-adjusted - we're flexible and always open to community feedback. ^^

removed the first bit since Shazi explained for you. "I'd like to see proof of your work" is what I'd like to say, but I know that it's silly considering that.. well, a majority of them were 'black' with really bright colors, so this is invalid. of course it'd increase, but you can say that with LITERALLY any other color that the melans have become: red melans have increased blue melans have increased purple melans have increased ..of course they did - because they're now pigmented and not 'make me black but make my secondary a bright color'. What exactly do you have against green albinos and melans? Is it that much of an issue? Green wasn't a color used very much in normal or shiny colorations which is why it might be used in more places, but like i said - the same can be said for other colors as well. Honestly, it just appears as if you dislike green and want to campaign against it. I'm also a little confused as to why you say green doesn't really work with anything - there are so many shades of green ranging from yellow-green to blue-green. It's arguably one of the colors that work best. Again, it's.. really not. There are tons of others that aren't green and it wasn't the color chosen to be there for all albinos and melans - to say this is incorrect. Also, you say that this isn't a color seen in mammals, etc.. and that pokemon are based on mammals, etc. So you'd prefer the neon-rave melans and washed out albinos? Those are what are seen in Pokémon when they're so colorful and full of life? From what you're saying, it would appear that you'd prefer the old albino Natu () with one color scheme rather than the updated one where there are actual distinguishable colors () like the normal () has? LOTS of non mammals are green - birds, fish, amphibians, etc. like you mentioned, but.. this is Pokemon. They don't need to follow the logic that mammals do in their coloration and nor do we. Just because a pokemon is mammalian based doesn't mean it can't also be green. What about Electrike? Electrike is naturally green, and definitely not a plant or reptile. Taurous, Stantler, Ursaring, Wingull, Azurill, Espeon all have green shinies. Also not plants or reptiles. A couple that you listed aren't green, at all. Sunkern for example. And Bonsly only has been on its pseudo leaves? The body isn't green. Again, its just coming off like you hate green or anything remotely having a trace of green on it when it works and fits well. I don't think you've seen the shinies or how some of these patterns work like we have - we've spend months staring at sprites, noticing how the colors change between normal and shiny, watching how the colors flip and switch between the lines, how there's an odd-one-out in a line, etc. We're very much aware of these patterns and while we're at it, let's talk about dewgong. Dewgong's shiny is yellow-white. That means it's pigmented. This is why the melan is green. The melan isn't blue because the normal is blue-white. It's not purple because the albino is pink, and purple would be too close to pink. This is why it's green - because it's far away enough that it works -- blue and yellow aren't that close to eachother. Nor are pink and green.