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Suggestion Title: Make Koraidon/Miraidon more "special" as they are Legendary Pokémon. Suggestion Summary: I find it kinda odd that Koraidon and Miraidon are treated like every other Paradox in PFQ. They ARE Paradoxes in canon, true, but they're also the box legendaries. The only thing that sets them apart from the other Paradoxes is that they have form changing items in the tourney shop, like other legendaries. I suggest that there should be an extra way to make the two more "legendary" than they are now. I'm not saying change them so they aren't Paradoxes, as I said them being Paradoxes makes sense, but I think their Data Volumes should account for something. Here's some ideas I have:
  • Summon Item - Add a summon item for Koraidon and Miraidon respectively. Instead of giving you an egg, they leave another item behind (some sort of DNA thing maybe?,) which can be exchanged for their Data Volume (most likely at Colress' Shack, if the idea below isn't probable.) They shouldn't give the DVs straight up (where would they get those?) If we aren't going to do a dex/chain/master unlock for them, maybe the way you can unlock these summons could be similar to the Ultra Beasts (though MUCH less complicated,) where there is a special "Area Zero Research Lab" place you can unlock the summons by doing certain tasks (what exactly, idk.) This could maybe also be the place where you can exchange the item Korai/Mirai dropped for their DVs. We could maybe even extend this so that the Data Volume Voucher redemption could be used here, instead of being lumped in with the Mega Stones, but this is just extra stuff. If this the route we wanna go, I'd also personally suggest only letting the summon be found in boxes and removing Koraidon and Miraidon's DVs from the Data Volume Voucher pool only once the summon item is fully implemented.
  • Make the two required to unlock Azure Flute - I think this should only be added if the two are given summon items, otherwise this could cause issues. Not sure if it should count once the summon item is used or when the DV is applied (since you can use the DV even if you haven't unlocked the summon item, but you wouldn't immediately get a Koraidon/Miraidon when you use the summon.) Personally leaning towards it only counting after using the summon.
  • Make Koraidon and Miraidon's DVs exclusive to Tourney Prize Shop - Honestly prefer the summon item route since these guys' form changers are in the tourney shop but this is another idea if a summon item isn't on the table. This would only happen once the Data Volume Voucher is available in the tourney shop (as Niet confirmed here.) This would also mean their DVs would be removed from the standard DV Voucher pool, similar to how you can't get Adamantite or Korokunite Q from Mega Stone Vouchers (obviously I think the DVs should go for less than those 2 items as they aren't uber-rare but separating them from the standard DV pool and maybe making them a little more expensive than the DV Voucher would make them feel more in line with being legendaries.)
  • Separate Koraidon and Miraidon's dex entries from Cyclizar's - I'm not sure if this is possible with the current code, but if it is, Koraidon and Miraidon's entries can be listed separately at the end of the Paldea dex instead of being merged with Cyclizar's (both Korai/Mirai would still count as forms of Cyclizar however.) Alternatively, this could work like Koroku and Kyukori where the two are technically considered "evolutions" of Cyclizar so they are listed separately, despite in practice being Paradoxes (Mega in the case of Kyukori.)
Positive points: + Makes Koraidon and Miraidon more consistent with other Legendary Pokémon. + May make the DVs for Koraidon and Miraidon easier to obtain (depends on how this is implemented.) Negative points: - May make the DVs for Koraidon and Miraidon harder to obtain or lose value (depends on how this is implemented.) - Could be considered unnecessary, I suppose? Reason For Consideration: It just feels weird that Koraidon and Miraidon, despite being the box legends for SV, are pretty much just the same as any other Paradox (save for their form changes.) Usually the methods for obtaining Pokémon are consistent with how they're portrayed in canon, with legendaries being much rarer. Koraidon and Miraidon really aren't that much rarer or more special than the other Paradoxes, considering you can just grab them from the DV Voucher pool (granted, you can't get the DV Voucher right now, but I'm thinking ahead here.) Seeing as PFQ tries to stay close to canon rarity as much as possible (see the Gimmighoul fiasco) I think it makes sense for something more to be done to Koraidon and Miraidon. I'm not sure if this is a very popular opinion, but I do wanna hear your thoughts and any other ideas if you have them!
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