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  • watering
  • yield
  • mulch
  • items
  • pokeblocks

gardening how-to

in this guide, i hope to collect all of the data pertaining to everything to do with the berry garden, and share it with you all after discussing things with niet, he let me know how the garden works and it is a lot more complicated than i originally thought! it's more than just not letting the garden go dry, though that is a part of it. (see bottom for a basic summary) to start with, there are two factors to yield - the stages of growth, and the plant moisture every plant's growth cycle is split into 4 stages - typically, these would be equal, but because of the way that the garden looks at things by the hour post-planting (that is to say, if you plant the berry at 14:26, the garden 'updates' the growth at 15:26), it sometimes sounds in weird ways when using a mulch. in further sections of this guide, i actually have these mapped out for ease, but essentially if you split the timeline in 4 equal parts, to find the actual time you round to the nearest hour after planting. the first time you water the plant during one of these stages, the yield will increase by 25% of the maximum yield range. the other portion of the yield calculations has to do with the moisture level of the plant. each berry has a 'drain rate'/ moisture starts at 100 whenever it is planted, and then every 60 minutes later, the drain rate is subtracted from the plant. whenever the moisture score is below 50, it will show as damp. whenever it is below 0, it will show as dry - going dry damages the plant, which reduces the yield these two aspects combined make quite an interesting schedule of care, but i will be updating this guide with a full layout of best practices soon! tl;dr water individually right after planting, than again every quarter section of the growth time and you'll get best yield unless it goes dry raw data charts
various berries take various lengths of time to grow, this is true, and from this, they also vary in how quickly they grow damp and dry. below, i've charted these numbers for your convenience

common

growthdampdry
cheriberry.pngchestoberry.pngpechaberry.pngrawstberry.pngaspearberry.png
cheri, chesto, pecha, rawst, aspear
12 hr4 hr7 hr
leppaberry.pngoranberry.pngpersimberry.png
leppa, oran, persim
16 hr4 hr7 hr
lumberry.png
lum
48 hr7 hr13 hr
sitrusberry.png
sitrus
32 hr8 hr15 hr
figyberry.pngwikiberry.pngmagoberry.pngaguavberry.pngiapapaberry.png
figy, wiki, mago, aguav, iapapa
20 hr5 hr10 hr

berries

growthdampdry
razzberry.pngblukberry.pngnanabberry.pngwepearberry.pngpinapberry.png
razz, bluk, nanab, wepear, pinap
8 hr2 hr3 hr
pomegberry.pngkelpsyberry.pngqualotberry.pnghondewberry.pnggrepaberry.pngtamatoberry.png
pomeg, kelpsy, qualot, qualot, hondew, grepa, tamato
32 hr7 hr13 hr
cornnberry.pngmagostberry.pngrabutaberry.pngnomelberry.png
cornn, magost, rabuta, nomel
24 hr5 hr10 hr
spelonberry.pngpamtreberry.pngwatmelberry.pngdurinberry.pngbelueberry.png
spelon, pamtre, watmel, durin, belue
60 hr7 hr13 hr

rare

growthdampdry
occaberry.pngpasshoberry.pngwacanberry.pngrindoberry.pngyacheberry.pngchopleberry.pngkebiaberry.pngshucaberry.pngcobaberry.pngpayapaberry.pngtangaberry.pngchartiberry.pngkasibberry.pnghabanberry.pngcolburberry.pngbabiriberry.pngroseliberry.pngchilanberry.png
occa, passho, wacan, rindo, yache, chople, kebia, shuca, coba, payapa, tanga, charti, kasib, haban, colbur, babiri, roseli, chilan
72 hr9 hr17 hr

special

growthdampdry
liechiberry.pngganlonberry.pngsalacberry.pngpetayaberry.pngapicotberry.pngstarfberry.pngkeeberry.pngmarangaberry.pngenigmaberry.png
liechi, ganlon, salac, petaya, apicot, starf, kee, maranga, enigma
96 hr13 hr25 hr
micleberry.pngcustapberry.pngjabocaberry.pnglansatberry.pngrowapberry.png
micle, custap, jaboca, lansat, rowap
96 hr8 hr15 hr
max yield is what you get when you water at least once in each of the 4 stages of growth, as well as without letting the berries go dry for every watering stage you miss, the yield is reduced by 25% of the max range every time the plants go dry, the max is reduced by 1 (note: this is calculated when the plant is watered - so if it is dry near the end of its growth cycle, and you did the 1st part correctly, you may be better off not watering it. mostly only applicable to the long growth time berries)

common berries

grow timeminmax
cheriberry.png
cheri
chestoberry.png
chesto
pechaberry.png
pecha
rawstberry.png
rawst
aspearberry.png
aspear
12 hr24-5
leppaberry.png
leppa
oranberry.png
oran
persimberry.png
persim
16 hr24-5
lumberry.png
lum
48 hr24-5
sitrusberry.png
sitrus
32 hr24-5
figyberry.png
figy
wikiberry.png
wiki
magoberry.png
mago
aguavberry.png
aguav
iapapaberry.png
iapapa
20 hr14-5

berries

razzberry.png
razz
blukberry.png
bluk
nanabberry.png
nanab
wepearberry.png
wepear
pinapberry.png
pinap
8 hr28-10
pomegberry.png
pomeg
kelpsyberry.png
kelpsy
qualotberry.png
qualot
hondewberry.png
hondew
grepaberry.png
grepa
tamatoberry.png
tamato
32 hr14-5
cornnberry.png
cornn
magostberry.png
magost
rabutaberry.png
rabuta
nomelberry.png
nomel
24 hr28-10
spelonberry.png
spelon
pamtreberry.png
pamtre
watmelberry.png
watmel
durinberry.png
durin
belueberry.png
belue
60 hr2-314-15

rare berries

occaberry.png
occa
passhoberry.png
passho
wacanberry.png
wacan
rindoberry.png
rindo
yacheberry.png
yache
chopleberry.png
chople
kebiaberry.png
kebia
shucaberry.png
shuca
cobaberry.png
coba
payapaberry.png
payapa
tangaberry.png
tanga
chartiberry.png
charti
kasibberry.png
kasib
habanberry.png
haban
colburberry.png
colbur
babiriberry.png
babiri
roseliberry.png
roseli
chilanberry.png
chilan
72 hr14-5

special berries

liechiberry.png
liechi
ganlonberry.png
ganlon
salacberry.png
salac
petayaberry.png
petaya
apicotberry.png
apicot
starfberry.png
starf
keeberry.png
kee
marangaberry.png
maranga
enigmaberry.png
enigma
micleberry.png
micle
custapberry.png
custap
jabocaberry.png
jaboca
lansatberry.png
lansat
rowapberry.png
rowap
96 hr14-5
  • growth
  • damp
  • stable
  • gooey
  • perfect
Growth Mulch shorts the growth, and subsequently watering, times of all berries Damp Mulch slows down the growth, and subsequently watering, times for all berries Stable Mulch allows plants to be harvested for a longer amount of time before dying Gooey Mulch allows berries to regrow from dead soil more times Perfect Mulch is the only way to get Perfect Berries
Growth Mulch shorts the growth, and subsequently watering, times of all berries

common berries

growthdampdry
cheriberry.png
cheri
chestoberry.png
chesto
pechaberry.png
pecha
rawstberry.png
rawst
aspearberry.png
aspear
9 hr3 hr5 hr
leppaberry.png
leppa
oranberry.png
oran
persimberry.png
persim
12 hr3 hr5 hr
lumberry.png
lum
36 hr5 hr9 hr
sitrusberry.png
sitrus
24 hr5 hr10 hr
figyberry.png
figy
wikiberry.png
wiki
magoberry.png
mago
aguavberry.png
aguav
iapapaberry.png
iapapa
15 hr4 hr7 hr

berries

razzberry.png
razz
blukberry.png
bluk
nanabberry.png
nanab
wepearberry.png
wepear
pinapberry.png
pinap
6 hr1 hr2 hr
pomegberry.png
pomeg
kelpsyberry.png
kelpsy
qualotberry.png
qualot
hondewberry.png
hondew
grepaberry.png
grepa
tamatoberry.png
tamato
24 hr5 hr9 hr
cornnberry.png
cornn
magostberry.png
magost
rabutaberry.png
rabuta
nomelberry.png
nomel
18 hr4 hr7 hr
spelonberry.png
spelon
pamtreberry.png
pamtre
watmelberry.png
watmel
durinberry.png
durin
belueberry.png
belue
45 hr5 hr9 hr

rare berries

occaberry.png
occa
passhoberry.png
passho
wacanberry.png
wacan
rindoberry.png
rindo
yacheberry.png
yache
chopleberry.png
chople
kebiaberry.png
kebia
shucaberry.png
shuca
cobaberry.png
coba
payapaberry.png
payapa
tangaberry.png
tanga
chartiberry.png
charti
kasibberry.png
kasib
habanberry.png
haban
colburberry.png
colbur
babiriberry.png
babiri
roseliberry.png
roseli
chilanberry.png
chilan
54 hr6 hr12 hr

special berries

liechiberry.png
liechi
ganlonberry.png
ganlon
salacberry.png
salac
petayaberry.png
petaya
apicotberry.png
apicot
starfberry.png
starf
keeberry.png
kee
marangaberry.png
maranga
enigmaberry.png
enigma
72 hr9 hr17 hr
micleberry.png
micle
custapberry.png
custap
jabocaberry.png
jaboca
lansatberry.png
lansat
rowapberry.png
rowap
72 hr5 hr10 hr
Damp Mulch slows down the growth, and subsequently watering, times for all berries

common berries

growthdampdry
cheriberry.png
cheri
chestoberry.png
chesto
pechaberry.png
pecha
rawstberry.png
rawst
aspearberry.png
aspear
15 hr7 hr? hr
leppaberry.png
leppa
oranberry.png
oran
persimberry.png
persim
20 hr7 hr? hr
lumberry.png
lum
60 hr13 hr? hr
sitrusberry.png
sitrus
40 hr15 hr? hr
figyberry.png
figy
wikiberry.png
wiki
magoberry.png
mago
aguavberry.png
aguav
iapapaberry.png
iapapa
25 hr10 hr? hr

berries

razzberry.png
razz
blukberry.png
bluk
nanabberry.png
nanab
wepearberry.png
wepear
pinapberry.png
pinap
10 hr3 hr6 hr
pomegberry.png
pomeg
kelpsyberry.png
kelpsy
qualotberry.png
qualot
hondewberry.png
hondew
grepaberry.png
grepa
tamatoberry.png
tamato
40 hr13 hr? hr
cornnberry.png
cornn
magostberry.png
magost
rabutaberry.png
rabuta
nomelberry.png
nomel
30 hr10 hr? hr
spelonberry.png
spelon
pamtreberry.png
pamtre
watmelberry.png
watmel
durinberry.png
durin
belueberry.png
belue
75 hr13 hr? hr

rare berries

occaberry.png
occa
passhoberry.png
passho
wacanberry.png
wacan
rindoberry.png
rindo
yacheberry.png
yache
chopleberry.png
chople
kebiaberry.png
kebia
shucaberry.png
shuca
cobaberry.png
coba
payapaberry.png
payapa
tangaberry.png
tanga
chartiberry.png
charti
kasibberry.png
kasib
habanberry.png
haban
colburberry.png
colbur
babiriberry.png
babiri
roseliberry.png
roseli
chilanberry.png
chilan
90 hr17 hr? hr

special berries

liechiberry.png
liechi
ganlonberry.png
ganlon
salacberry.png
salac
petayaberry.png
petaya
apicotberry.png
apicot
starfberry.png
starf
keeberry.png
kee
marangaberry.png
maranga
enigmaberry.png
enigma
120 hr? hr? hr
micleberry.png
micle
custapberry.png
custap
jabocaberry.png
jaboca
lansatberry.png
lansat
rowapberry.png
rowap
120 hr15 hr? hr
Stable Mulch allows plants to be harvested for a longer amount of time before dying and replanting themselves (normally same as growth time) More research to be done
Gooey Mulch allows berries to regrow from dead soil more times than normal before the soil can no longer regenerate them More research to be done
Perfect Mulch is the only way to get Perfect Berries - which are used to increase and max out the Affection stat, required for Sylveon and Dusk Lycanroc evolutions, as well as in order to breed Kinaster from Solynx and Lunapine It can only be used on the 12 hour berries, those that visibly represent the 5 flavours on pokefarm - aspear, cheri, chesto, pecha, and rawst Perfect berries only work on pokemon of the nature that matches the flavour of the berry - any flavour pokemon can eat any berry type
when you gather the berries from your garden, you have a chance of collecting certain items. the better watered you kept the garden while growing, the greater your chances. one of these is the gracidea forme-change item for shaymin. this requires no other pre-requisite besides being perfectly watered. the other is nectars, which are the consumable forme-change item for oricorio and quibbit, and the only way to get the PFQ exclusive pointe-forme oricorio. collecting nectar requires a ribombee (NO totem-forme ribombee) to be in your party. each ribombee can collect one nectar, and each plant has potential to give one nectar, so having a full party of ribombee with well-watered crops gives the best odds. the colour of the nectar depends on the colour of the berries being collected. canonically blue berries are considered purple on pokefarm, since there is no blue nectar. if all else fails, the inventory will tell you what colour the berry is, and what nectar it has a chance of producing
yellow
aspearberry.png
aspear
sitrusberry.png
sitrus
iapapaberry.png
iapapa
pinapberry.png
pinap
grepaberry.png
grepa
nomelberry.png
nomel
wacanberry.png
wacan
shucaberry.png
shuca
chartiberry.png
charti
chilanberry.png
chilan
liechiberry.png
liechi
marangaberry.png
maranga
enigmaberry.png
enigma
jabocaberry.png
jaboca
pink
pechaberry.png
pecha
persimberry.png
persim
magoberry.png
mago
nanabberry.png
nanab
qualotberry.png
qualot
magostberry.png
magost
spelonberry.png
spelon
kasibberry.png
kasib
colburberry.png
colbur
petayaberry.png
petaya
lansatberry.png
lansat
keeberry.png
kee
purple
chestoberry.png
chesto
oranberry.png
oran
wikiberry.png
wiki
blukberry.png
bluk
kelpsyberry.png
kelpsy
cornnberry.png
cornn
pamtreberry.png
pamtre
belueberry.png
belue
passhoberry.png
passho
yacheberry.png
yache
cobaberry.png
coba
ganlonberry.png
ganlon
apicotberry.png
apicot
rowapberry.png
rowap
red
cheriberry.png
cheri
leppaberry.png
leppa
figyberry.png
figy
razzberry.png
razz
pomegberry.png
pomeg
tamatoberry.png
tamato
occaberry.png
occa
chopleberry.png
chople
payapaberry.png
payapa
habanberry.png
haban
roseliberry.png
roseli
custapberry.png
custap
green
rawstberry.png
rawst
lumberry.png
lum
aguavberry.png
aguav
wepearberry.png
wepear
hondewberry.png
hondew
rabutaberry.png
rabuta
watmelberry.png
watmel
durinberry.png
durin
rindoberry.png
rindo
kebiaberry.png
kebia
tangaberry.png
tanga
babiriberry.png
babiri
salacberry.png
salac
starfberry.png
starf
micleberry.png
micle

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Two inquiries... 1) "Yield Type 3: Watering when the garden becomes damp. There is no alert for this, so alarms are your best friend. Mass watering button is usable." Do you happen to know the 'damp' timing for each of the various berries, or groups of berries? (i.e. 'every 3 hrs' or '25% of the timing' etc.) And if so, would you be willing to add that to your chart? 2) "Yield Type 4: Never allowing the garden to become dry or even damp. This requires you to be active almost the entire growth period, and to individually water each plot, which resets the watering cycle. There is no easy mass water button for this method." Is there anywhere the bold portion above is stated officially? Or some extended trial where this was proved? I know you could sometimes override with the Old garden plots (when the 'garden' actually looked like a garden). But since the massive rewrite to the current garden format, I have always seemed to have my berries go damp, no matter how much I watered them individually. So I gave up doing so. Additionally, you cannot get 'perfect' berries without perfect/max yields (according to the official instructions anyways), and I was getting them all the time with my plantings going damp, so that also seems to indicate it is ineffective to water when they are wet. Would love to be proved wrong though. (And again if so, would have loved to have that information Before this weeks tournament :P)
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To answer your questions in order: 1) The 'damp' and 'dry' timing for the various berries are something I do plan on recording for each berry, not to worry. 2) I rather frequently have done this, and it has seemed to work. It's mainly been a thing that I did when I'm leaving the computer for a bit, and I have returned at a point in time later that it would have been dry normally, but it is only damp. However it is true that there may not be a difference in yields between methods 3 and 4, but the data also isn't in yet to say that there isn't either. On perfect berries, well, I havent toyed around much with those yet either. I know the Amaze Mulch is used to increase the chance of perfect berries being produced, but I do not yet know how the watering and yields affect this. As for having this knowledge beforehand in relation to this tournament, yeah. It was this lack of a current guide in light of this tournament that pushed me to make this guide in the first place.
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QUOTE originally posted by JaneCrocker

... As for having this knowledge beforehand in relation to this tournament, yeah. It was this lack of a current guide in light of this tournament that pushed me to make this guide in the first place.
Well, thank you for doing this in particular, regardless. Also for the other information you answered as well. I look forward to seeing/following your results :-) Cheers! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-* <Edit> So, on a quick limited (singular) test, it does appear that Not letting a plant go damp significantly increases the yield (almost double in this instance). Details - planted 32 Nanab berries (8 hrs harvest time) as my last set for the Tournament. Kept going back to water them all day, but missed 4 plants at the bottom (1 time?) that went damp once. Yield for the first 28 plant were 6-8 berries each, mostly 7 or 8 per. The last few were only 4 each. Again, a Very limited sample size, but makes me all that more interested to see your results. <End edit>
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I hope this isn't a stupid question; what exactly.. do the berries do? Do they have a purpose?
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QUOTE originally posted by Mattykips

I hope this isn't a stupid question; what exactly.. do the berries do? Do they have a purpose?
The basic 5 types, the 12 hr ones in the common berries category, can grow Perfect X Berries, which can be used to raise Affection, which is necessary to evolve Sylveon. All berries can be turned into Pokeblocks, which are used in contests to raise certain stats.
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QUOTE originally posted by Mattykips

I hope this isn't a stupid question; what exactly.. do the berries do? Do they have a purpose?
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I've been gathering berry data myself for awhile now, so I can add some things. 1. Yes watering while wet definitely resets the watering cycle, I've confirmed this so many times. 2. I believe you can't have perfectly watered berries unless they're always wet, so this is important for gathering nectar and better berry yields. 3. You don't need to perfectly water berries to get perfect berries, but it does increase the yield of perfect berries. In my experience perfect watering gets you close to 1 perfect berry per berry planted, whereas watering while damp yields about 23/32 perfect berries. 4. From what I can tell, what matters is how much time berries spend wet as opposed to damp or dry - I'm not sure if damp vs dry makes a difference, but if you water berries when they're damp your results will vary based on whether they're damp for a total of .1 vs 1.2 watering cycles, if that makes sense. Some data:
BerryDampDry
Cheri-Persim47
Lum7
Sitrus8
Figy-Iapapa5
Pomeg-Grepa7-811-13
Tamato7
Cornn-Nomel5
Spelon-Belue7
Occa-Yache9
Cheri-Persim47
Razz-Pinap yield 9-10 berries when perfectly watered and 2-3 when watered only once. I think the yield is around 8 when 1 watering was missed but I'm not sure. Cheri-Leppa yield 4-5 berries when perfectly watered and 2 berries when not watered at all.
Do we have any information on which berries produce which nectars? I read somewhere it was flower color but I'm not seeing that logged anywhere. Could it be based on berry color instead?

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I know for sure that Lum berries produce green nectars, and Chesto produces purple nectar
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