Raise Melan DP Value

Suggestion Title: Raise Melan DP Value Suggestion Summary: Raise the melan DP Value to double what it currently is (or some other amount) Positive points: Increases monetary value of melans back to what it was previously Increases demand of melans as they are more of a viable source of DP again I'll add more if people have them Negative points: Could possibly decrease the DP price further I'll add more if people have them Reason For Consideration: I think the last increase of shiny/albino DP value set out what it was meant to do by decreasing the cost of DP itself without decreasing the monetary value of shinies and albinos, but melans were left out of the picture. With the decrease of DP value to about half what it was, melans stopped being a viable source of DP at their current prices. Ever since that update, I've seen people selling their melans cheaper and cheaper to match the new DP value. The only melans that have been able to maintain their value are the most popular pokemon that people are always looking for. Since there was no significant boost to melan chances, this just means that people are now getting as little as half as much as they were previously. Many users use melan sales to fund their other hunts and the dip in the value has made it much harder for them. Just as shinies and albinos do, melans need the DP "backing" to maintain their value.

I'm not really sure about this. Wasn't melan DP value raised the same time as the shiny and albino DP values were raised? I see people selling 5k EHP melans at 1600ZC now, which is higher than they were going for at previous DP price. No support from me unless I've misunderstood your post

The melan DP value was not raised when the shiny and albino values were. It hasn't changed since DP was introduced. So say for a 5k egg, the DP value has always been 800, but with the doubling of shiny/albino values, the DP monetary value went from 2 ZC per to 1 ZC per, so at the new rate, melans are worth 800 ZC instead of 1600 ZC (in terms of DP). Also the general price before was 1600 ZC, so it's not higher than it was? Yes, there are still people trying to sell at 1600 ZC, but it's a lot harder to sell a melan at that price, so the only ones that are getting sold (at that price) are the ones people actually want for a collection. I also see plenty getting sold for much less than that, some as low as 800 ZC because they can't get people to buy them at 1600. My point for this suggestion is to make it so that the demand for melans is brought back up to what it was previously so that people will be able to consistently sell their melans at 1600, not even more than that. And the demand dropped because melans are no longer a viable source of DP at 1600 ZC, so an increase in DP value should help with that

Oh, interesting... for some reason I do not remember melans ever being valued at a 2ZC per 1DP at the current DP rate, as I have a memory of fossil mons sold for 1,200ZC or less at the the 1,200DP they gave instead of 2,400ZC at a 2:1 scale. However I do remember a 2:1 ratio of some kind. Was it 2DP:1ZC instead of the other way around? Perhaps it is my bad memory, and I can't really check due to Pokefarm's bad habit of wiping every thread that is older than 2 weeks off the face of the earth. Changing my no support to a no-opinion for now. I think I will need to read some posts from people speculating about the DP market before I can decide. I am worried that raising melan DP will tank the market even further however. More recently I have seen 1000DP vouchers being sold at only 800zc, which is much lower than the ideal 1ZC:1DP rate.

It was definitely 2 ZC per DP. There was a dip in DP price to 1.5 ZC per before the updates (which in part was why Niet ended up reducing the shiny/albino chances I think), but that mostly was the case for shinies/albinos. From what I saw melans mostly stayed around the 2 ZC price, maybe around 100 ZC off of that. I think that was because it was much more convenient at the time to buy a melan for DP since you would have to send each shiny/albino individually. I don't remember seeing any fossils sold for that low, before the updates, but it's possible it happened. But yeah I get the hesitation that it might bring the price down further. I mentioned that in my negatives but in my personal opinion, melans are rare enough so that I don't think that would happen, but obviously that's impossible to know for sure. From my personal experience, I've been trying to sell a few melans at 1600 ZC for well over a month now with no luck because people don't want them to keep. Before I would have no problems selling melans (maybe a week at most) because even if people didn't want them for collections they were a good source of DP. And if there is no change, I'll obviously have to sell them for lower but its just a loss that I see as a little unfair because melans aren't any more common than they were before

Part of this could be that there is less ZC around now as the costs of the various ZC items are more expensive and spending straight to the game where it disappears entirely causes less on the market exchanging hands. More available summons, which is also commonly bought using ZC, is another place that ZC goes to instead of on melans. The RMT trading and the changes to overall special chances have definitely made many players less active from what I can tell. I am not saying this to have anything adjusted, just pointing it out. I imagine people that are buying hypermode and Ubercharms are spending more ZC, which means that they have less to spend on other things like melans from other people. It's rare to see people accepting anything other than ZC (or half of the total amount) for their melans. Lower chances of specials makes delta hunting even more costly to get into, and maybe less popular now, even when trading your pokemon back in to try again, which means a bit less need for a melan for points. Melans already seem expensive to me and I'm very picky on which ones I'd even want to buy, especially when the sprites are changing and the colours changed so drastically, so increasing the price of their DP to make them cost even more seems likely to have the opposite effect of selling more of them.

Some of what you're saying could very well be true, but from my experience I don't think delta hunting is any less popular. I sell DP from my extra shinies/albinos often and have seen no issue selling it, and in fact have a much easier time selling it now that you don't have to trade each shiny/albino individually. I've only seen melans get harder to sell, I believe because most people don't want to sell their melans for what they're worth in terms of DP because it's too low in their opinion. That's why I think increasing the DP value would help with that as people would be more willing to buy melans for DP at the prices people want to sell them at.

full support for me. i was ‘hunting applin’ for TR but wasn’t actually going for a melan for my personal collection, and now at 1.4k zc, lower than the base price of 1.6k zc, isn’t selling. I have debated dropping it lower and lower but I would really love to make some form of currency off of melan hunting and not just have a face full of disappointment at something supposed to be exciting.

support, sometimes i decide maybe i want to hunt for a melan to get more delta points, then i look at the ehp value and realised its not worth it

support, but personally i think double is a bit much. 1.5x the current dp would be nice, melans do tend to sell just for being melans. i haven't seen many 1DP - 1ZC melans, but there are a lot being sold around the 1DP - 1.5ZC mark. the boost in dp could bring them back to 1DP - 2ZC price, and make it better to hunt DP.