Jellal: "Not what it's supposed to be"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 03/Feb/2019 17:25:46 (15 days ago)
I made my account on PF1 8 years ago, and actively played on the site for many years. I really liked the whole "market" aspect of it, as I never spent a dollar and eventually worked my way to having approximately $300 worth of rare items and pokemon really made me proud. I stopped playing slightly after the release of PFQ because the website was real new, and had almost nothing on it, so it felt rather boring, and PF1 was on a decline because of the announcement of switching over. Coming back, I''m not pleased with some of the changes to be honest.
"Pay to win": While I know PF1 had many of the same aspects of what you could get by paying, PFQ feels like not paying isn't much of an option. With long chain bonuses to those with hypermode, they can get fields upon fields of shiny, albino, and melanistic pokemon far easier than lose of us trying to get one with just our pokeradar with a far lower shiny chance. The work was worth the effort on PF1, as all shiny pokemon seemed to hold atleast some rarity, whereas in PFQ, many seem to be valued at 35-80 GP. your scours can get you GP far faster than it'll take you to try to hunt a shiny at that value.
Tournament Tokens: Fun idea, but they kinda just reward those who have been playing since release, and not those who are new. It'll take months upon months to get enough tokens to get all the fakemon eggs you're behind on.
Staff: The thing I see people complain the most about is the staff being rude, and quick to start using their powers. I know I've had my fair share in experiences with it. On PF1, I was permanently banned (which after a while of back and fourth and rude responses from the staff member who banned me, was finally unbanned) for "multi-accounting" because my twin brother and I shared a birthday. We were told how rare it is for people to be twins, so we just had to be multi-accounting. That experience for me was my first big insight that nothing you own on this website is yours, and that the staff can take it away for what seems like any reason. What awes me the most is how many issues people have with the staff, and seemingly none of them are ever made to change their behavior, or face any sort of punishment or warnings as to any of their wrongdoings. I would like to note the staff member who banned me for being a twin, and was rude to me, and my parents in support, is still a staff member today. Resolving staff issues should be a first priority considering they're supposed to represent your site and keep it under control. I've seen too many occasions where staff are rude to new members for "not having a brain", which is the exact opposite of helping grow a community.
Biased ratings: As someone with experience in the field of statistics, I can tell you these ratings are going to be skewed up, which can clearly be seen. Having a user's name show alongside their rating is a terrible idea for honest feedback. Users aren't going to want to rate poorly as it may single them out in the community, and they may fear being punished by the staff (the very same staff team addressed above). I know I'm expecting some sort of punishment from a staff member for posting a bad review, and addressing poor staffing in it. For the site's developer, the skewed statistics that represent the site are great because it mostly only sheds the website in a positive light. I can get why he'd want to keep it that way, but it's very misleading to new members. Ratings should be anonymous, and only tied to your account for say, the admins to see, and only for when a rule is broken in a rating.
I really liked the concept, and had fun playing the game way back when. I feel that now the game isn't something to put time into, because you won't nearly get as much out of it as you put into it. Overall, definitely not worth it in my opinion. Join a sport, learn a new trick, play another game, do something that you'll get more out of from.
👍 15👎 5
tamamos: "layout is not well explained and hard to navigate"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 24/Jan/2019 05:32:24 (25 days ago)
👍 7👎 10
xazz: "Boring and toxic"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 31/Dec/2018 06:19:47 (1 month ago)
Played for a while but eventually got bored because there's just nothing to do unless you spend real money, which doesn't convert to your currency so for anyone not in the UK it's more expensive :,)
Forums are insanely toxic and unwelcoming to any newcomers or people who don't kiss the staff's ass. Regularly get into arguing matches over the differences of opinion and had their only complaint thread locked because no one had anywhere else to talk about their problems with the site. And any problems they do have are brushed off by veterans or the staff as silly or unimportant. The forums seem to be actively AGAINST communication as a whole. Bumping more than once every three days is not allowed. Multiple threads of a similar type are not allowed. Things get deleted if they aren't active enough, thus creating a very small appearing community where it seems like no one is actually engaging in the website. Have spoken to MANY people outside of the site who say they are way too afraid to post on the forums because of Niet being rude or because it felt wholey unwelcoming to them.
Not gonna get into Niet. Either you hate him or you tolerate him seems to be the way about him.
Game was fun when I had a bit of disposable income and could afford hypermode but once it ran out I stopped caring because it's just SO annoying to get anything done in this game. Everything interesting costs premium currency, which you don't have to buy outright but is annoying to do because you have to trade with players for it. If there was MORE to do in this game I'd actually use it more. And I get it, it's a clicker game but having to devote like 4 hours a day to it to hatch a handful of eggs isssss.... uh.... stupid.
👍 20👎 11
Palutena: "It's good but"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 01/Dec/2018 20:45:33 (2 months ago)
Now the site itself is fine. It's fun to play and I love the exclusive's designs! There's just one Very personal but Very Big problem I have with it that drove the score down.
The legendaries being unnecessarily given a gender really ticks me off. I'm agender and really connected to them, because they're like me! And there's so few other characters that are genderless/nonbinary PERIOD. And now, there's even LESS pokemon like that! And to put icing on the cake, Garthic's response in a thread where the topic was suggesting to have genderless legendaries was pretty offensive! Just because I'm agender doesn't mean I can't have kids!! And the legendaries don't even breed! As for cosmog, they could've easily just given them an item to evolve to either Solgaleo or Lunala! And if one of the /admins/ has this opinion, I can only imagine what the rest of the staff thinks. If people like having legendaries with a gender that's fine! The toggle idea was a really good one!
I also wish there was more variety with the avatars, but I can understand that would probably be a lot of work/it could get added later on.
EDIT (addition sent to Garthic via PM)
I would like to apologize to all the staff! It was unfair to drag you into this. I'm very used to staff thinking alike which is why I thought it'd be the same here, but I shouldn't of assumed that. I am really sorry about that!
👍 9👎 22
Garthic replied: 02/Dec/2018 17:51:40 (2 months ago)
I want to open with this statement before I get in to anything.
I do not feel like our game is the right place to push identity politics.
Now, that said.
First and foremost, I want to clear up a misconception that you have - the gender icon doesn't refer to anything's personal identification, it refers specifically to their biology. They are more than welcome to be characterised and given personal identification if that's what you want for them! That's exactly what the "Custom Description" is for on all Pokémon.
I have no idea where you got the impression that I would believe an agender individual would be unable to have kids. Of course you can. That's basic biology. What you identify yourself as does not change your biology.
I have made an attempt to find a post I have made on this subject matter by searching the suggestions forum for threads including 'genderless' and 'legend' and I have failed to find a post which coincides with your statement regarding 'what I had said'. More alarmingly, I have failed to find something which would lead to your given statements regarding me and my supposed beliefs (which I evidently don't believe, and never have, because that would be silly).
To be clear, the only thing I did find that could be near to what you're suggesting was from 2 years ago and, so far as I can see, had nothing to do with what you're putting forward.
I would also like to note that if the legendaries do not breed then how do we have thousands upon thousands of them? Their egg group is listed as "undiscovered", not "sterile". Just because we, as trainers / breeders, have not discovered it yet, does not mean that it does not happen.
Also, if I may bring up Manaphy as part of my evidence that they do indeed breed - Manaphy breeds a non-legend, Phione.
As for Cosmog, this falls in to the category of 'evidence that Legends do have genders (meaning biological, not identity)'. If you look at the Dex information for Solgaleo and Lunala then you will see that they are distinctly noted to be male and female, respectively.
Your generalisation of a group of people is... Alarming, to say the least. If you are willing to lump a group of people in to said group using the concept of "guilty by association" then I harbour concerns about the intention behind your statements... Especially when your attempt at demonising THE ENTIRE STAFF is based on an INCORRECT ASSUMPTION regarding one person's "opinion".
To be clear, even if that WERE my opinion (which it is not!), applying 'me' to the rest of staff is straw-manning them and that is horrible.
Please do not do that.
As a final note, and to be absolutely clear, the icon next to your Pokémon depicts its 'Biological gender'. That is not it's identity.
Just because it is born with a male or female icon depicting its biology, does not mean that it can not identify as 'agender'. Or 'genderfluid'. Or anything else for that matter!
It most certainly can!
ALSO! Regardless of anything that I said, you ARE able to modify those icons using the skins / custom modifications - this can be done on the user-end. There is a downside to this, however. Unless Niet is incorrect (I asked him for this information so I could provide it), you won't be able to target Legends specifically when doing this, so it would be a case of 'all or nothing'. Not ideal, but if you really don't want those 'biological gender' icons there then you can get rid of them all if that is something you would like to do! There would be the downside of being unaware of whether or not a Pokémon is male or female for putting them in to the Daycare, mind you... But at the very least, it's an option available to you!
If you're unsure on how to do that (and want to do it) then please feel free to contact me and I will be more than happy to provide you with the relevant code to put in to your skin modification!
All in all, we're more than happy to help. Your issue is by no means invalid and you're absolutely entitled to feeling the way that you do...
I will never allow, stand by, or ignore when incorrect information is used to attack either myself, or any of the wonderful people who support us and help us to grow.
I hope you understand where I am coming from on this matter and that the information I have provided is useful / helpful to you.
TenouHaruka: "Opinion on this all"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 17/May/2018 10:46:11 (9 months ago)
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Has nice features but too many unnecessary updates.
👍 4👎 34
Niet replied: 17/May/2018 11:51:20 (9 months ago)
I'm sorry that our constant work to improve the site seems "unnecessary" to you...
Aphøtic: "A long lasting site"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 12/Mar/2018 04:58:08 (11 months ago)
Well, I've been a member of the Pokefarm community for.... like... 9 years...? (Started playing during PF1 and have been a fairly active member since then) and man have I seen many changes in this site. From trading in shinies to the wheel in hopes of spinning it for good prizes to trading in the three types of pokemon to make a delta species, this site has gone through drastic changes, most of which were for the better. However, as you can see, I am only giving 2/5 stars for the time being.
Over the years I have seen a few things come up that really eked me. (I know people will probably down vote these since I'm going against the waves, but I feel if someone is looking into a site, they should know both sides).
First off, the staff. Now, a lot of reviews that pertain to the staff are excruciatingly harsh. However, I have had a few minor instances (either between me and one or from looking through threads) where the staff were not the kindest. For instance, I had a small, and rather short, with a staff member (they more than likely know) where I made a rather detailed argument against something, and instead of having a reasonable discussion about it they focused on one small portion of it leaving a wide variety of logical fallacies within it. I pointed it out and was immediately shot down with a "this discussion is over" type of message. Another that I witnessed was from a forum thread in the suggestions about ranks (which will be discussed shortly). Users didn't like the way Arceus Rank was being obtained, so they expressed their opinions about it, and some in harsh manners. When a staff member responded, the users argued every point and had several solutions to fix both parties ideas. Once the debate was getting very interesting, a staff member posted calling a user out (in my opinion, rather unprofessional) and basically said now they are thinkin about getting rid of it all entirely. This, to me, is rather unprofessional. Why make a comment about getting rid of it all entirely instead of talking through it and coming up with a solution. And for the staff who called the user out, what was to gain about putting their username? Was the goal to consume them with guilt? It was kind of a group effort to be completely honest, why not call the lot of them?
My next little issue is with, of course, Arceus Rank. This is the ultimate goal of the entire site and anyone who has it considered amazing. Now, my issue with this is that it is nearly impossible to get. Like, NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. This site has been around since 2013 and according to recent data, only 133 people on site have it (out of almost 7k active members). Now, I'm not saying anything about making it easier. It's just that with the extreme amounts of new fakemons being released it is making it Extremely hard for the average player to achieve. It's now starting to look like an almost laughable goal due to it's difficulty. If you are looking for a site that is easy to beat, this is definitely not the one for you.
My third little issue is with hypermode. Now I know this comes up frequently, that this site is a "pay to play" site. It's not, it's just a "pay to make it easier" site. The staff has done a good job with making things accessible for anyone. Whether it be shiny hunting with the pokeradar+ or weekly bonuses, there are multiple ways around it. However, my issue is that in order to get mass amounts of something, real money is required. Yes, you can trade. I know this and this defense is used to literally ever users that says this. However, trading can only take you so far. You get upwards of 300 GP per week that can be trading for credits. However, I've had threads selling GP for the ratio and have gone 2 weeks without a response (with thread bumping) (not to mention the ration of GP:Credits is slowly rising). So trading is really a luck based defense. One cannot be sure an item will trade which makes it all the harder.
I guess my final issue really goes back to my first point with the types of responses the staff gives back. Now I know there is a culture shock between groups since this site is run by people in the UK (I'm fairly certain) and a large population of the site is from the US. However the staff still come off as slightly rude in their remarks. I'm not saying anything a staff member says is snarky, however, I have seen many comments in threads and on other reviews that make the staff seem... a little condescending...? Arrogant...? Snarky...? I don't know if it is just the way I'm reading it or if it is just me reading it that way or if that was the intentions, they just come off rude sometimes.
Yes, I gave this site a 2/5 stars for those reasons above. I am one of a few (I think) that can say they've been a part of this site for close to 10 years and will be a part of it for years to come. However, I do feel there are things that should be fixed, or at least looked at. Again, I know my opinions differ largely from other people, that is expected, but a new user should at least know the issues of the site.
If a staff member would like to message me about my rating in hopes of increasing it, I will gladly accept the message, but for the time being: 2/5
(I hope this all makes sense. I'm on mobile while writing this so I have auto correct going against me)
👍 97👎 9
Dahell: "My experience with this game"★★☆☆☆
Posted: 24/Feb/2018 16:50:27 (11 months ago)
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After playing this game, I find it extremely frustrating and annoying to find shiny or albino pokemon. I've been playing this game for almost 2 months without finding either.
👍 3👎 42
Niet replied: 28/Feb/2018 12:25:54 (11 months ago)
Well yeah, they're rare :D
In seriousness though, you should focus on progressing through the game as a whole first, before specialising into a hunter.
Redpikachu: "Decent- if you can afford it."★★☆☆☆
Posted: 27/Jan/2018 23:02:57 (1 year ago)
As a minor, this game can be extremely time consuming. Users who can't or won't spend real life currency have to spend a lot more lime selling and doing scour missions to earn game currency.
👍 30👎 38
Posted: 11/Dec/2017 21:19:42 (1 year ago)
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Albino Pokemon Take Forever To Hatch
👍 2👎 76
Niet replied: 12/Dec/2017 12:42:45 (1 year ago)
That's kind of the point; they're rare! :D
Star0Rice: "Great game. However, public relations is a problem."★★☆☆☆
Posted: 28/Nov/2017 18:49:06 (1 year ago)
"Staff are rude but helpful" is probably the best summary of the majority of my complaints with Pokefarm. I personally feel a huge lack of professionalism from a few huge players on staff and honestly, I wouldn't care that they are snarky or rude people if they kept these things away from the public eye, however on several occasions they have make posts that everyone is pinged about on the news feed that have been more than a little offensive. Which, stepping out of line would be alright if the apologies and edits didn't feel so sarcastic. Niet is super guilty of this and Garthic defends him. Their response to people saying "I don't like how accusative and backhandedly sarcastic Niet was in this update" has been "You misread me/him and since it wasn't meant to be aggressive (this is just how Niet is, deal with it) we're going to dismiss this and disregard your opinions/feelings then make even bigger jabs at entire portions of the community in our next public update." It's not like just one or two people are complaining about this. So many people have complained about how brash Niet is and it seems like staff and Niet refuse to acknowledge that maybe Niet could tone it down? It very much feels like this should be a "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" situation but instead Niet has to have the last word on everything, like he has to win this argument instead of actually empathizing with users feeling attacked.
There are good things about the game and staff. They don't put up with other users bullying or harassing each other and, in my experience, have dealt with the situations quickly and completely, even if I left my one experience with an odd taste in my mouth.
Niet is very good at his job. He is a very good programmer. He's constantly making updates to the game and adding features. I've never personally made any suggestions as to what should be added to the game, but little inconveniences here and there (for example, ease of mobility and managing mass amounts of pokemon within fields has been greatly improved on in my years stay on pokefarm). They seem to be developing new events all the time and tweaking old ones if users complain enough (though this is sometimes met with ego and sarcasm from Niet). The game has been made easier as well with the additions of the egg warmer and exp share which rewards activity while allowing people to be less dependent on clicks from other people.
Two features seem daunting to me at present. First we have Pokerus which, used to be much easier to get. Only one user can have it ever quarter hour, which was fine about a year ago. Pokefarm's community has taken a huge upturn since I joined and this has lead to a large decrease in ones ability to get 'rus. If Pokefarm's user population continues to increase, I feel a revamp to this feature may be necessary. My gut response is to allow two people to have 'rus at once, but I'm not sure how Niet would want to/has to restructure things to make that work (or if there are better solutions to the problem).
The second feature that makes me sad is Hypermode. It makes it incredibly easier to get shinies and it costs real money to obtain (and yeah sure, people can purchase zophan canisters from other users, but hoo boy are they expensive). With a full shiny chain your chances go from something like a 350% to a 2500% boost with Hypermode. That boost is insane to me and it makes Hypermode very appealing, but its nearly 60 USD for a full years Hypermode (which is, of course, the cheapest per canister deal. Lesser subscriptions are more expensive per day.) I'm stuck between "I don't have time to take full advantage of Hypermode, so what's the point" and "Hoo boy that still would make my whole like 10 times easier." So, in my mind the tie breaker is "do I want the staff and developers to receive my money." And at present, no, I don't. There is not enough professional courtesy and I say this as a person who does not go onto the forums at all (the rules there are very strict and very child oriented. This is not a place I see myself doing well, I prefer environments geared more toward 20-30 year olds. On that note, for a site so child oriented, they're setting awful examples of how to deal with differences of opinions. It very much feels like they're speaking to petulant children instead of customers half the time, but now I'm rambling.) I've decided to put my money where my mouth is and not pay for Hypermode unless I see a huge, consistent changes to public relations. (I really do want to support this site. It's very well coded and designed. It is an incredible time sink and provides me a lot of enjoyment. I wish to get more enjoyment out of it, but I also want to feel valued as a customer.)
Why a 2/5? Because it is super important that staff respects users. It will drive me away if present behaviors continue. I don't care how good the game is if I feel insulted and disrespected. And if staff's response is "well then get out" then fair enough. I half expect it because this is the tone I've come to fear and know is completely possible.
👍 89👎 13
Niet replied: 29/Nov/2017 11:56:12 (1 year ago)
I don't think you're being fair on Garthic and the rest of staff. The PR problem is me, 100%. I'm working on it, although I will point out that without making mistakes how can anyone improve? The problem is made worse by how British people such as myself do tend to be rather more sarcastic in our humour, which American people generally don't appreciate - that's a bit of a culture shock factor.
I do think it is important for us to have some personality, even in "official" places like the Changelog (which I believe is what you're referring to). Nobody likes robots; personality is important. If you want proof of that, I went to the other extreme by posting a DIFF file output as a changelog entry, and lots of people were confused :D
Silliness aside, what I'm saying is that I'm going to keep being the one to post announcements and such, for the most part. I do take feedback into consideration. I'm trying to improve but mistakes can and will happen.
Moving on, I'm glad you enjoy the game as a whole. And I appreciate your words about my skill as a programmer, that's always nice to hear. With regard to Hypermode, I mean... you're absolutely right. It's like that by design. Pretty much everything that can be purchased on PFQ is optional, but helpful. That's the main thing stopping us from being "pay to win," the other being the fact that you can trade everything, even the premium currency. There are a number of users out there who haven't bought anything, but get their constant Hypermode and other upgrades through trading, which I think is awesome.
I'm rambling at this point, I feel. Thank you for your time, and feel free to PM me if you'd like to discuss anything further.