Sprite Discovery Discussion

like Giratina, the sprites hardly changed colors but look a lot better than the previous. I think it should be the case for most to be changed but now there is the consistancy thing that doesnt seem like the best colors are chosen for some pokemon. Like Sawsbuck and Shaymin look really good, then we have melan staraptor who looks just slightly different than the regular or melan sableye who just looks like the shiny compared to how different they were before. Also @Shazi I didn't read everything but drifloon is a perfect example of how things were changed for the worst. Old drifloon's sprite didn't look the best, but the colors were amazing. It had just a simple red/black and that was really nice. Now, it's this weird green shade with a not so great reddish brown that doesn't go with it at all. It's the kinda drastic melan changes I feel are just for the worst over all and most of the people I've talked to about it agree. I think having some consistency is good but to have it where it makes things look worse even to the staff, why change it to that instead of going back to the drawing board and maybe just changing it slightly like you did with giratina? (Please don't chang giratina btw it's great that it hardly changed I just use it as an exmample of how sprites were improved but kept the older color schemes) (lol edited it since I typed it on my phone and now I'm not on my phone)

I am pretty biased over shaymin considering how long I have hunted it. I think the general sprite quality has improved dramatically but the flower on the melan is definitely one of my least favorite colors. It reminds me a bit too much of spicy brown mustard which I have had some personal bad experiences with. xD I was really hoping they would stick to a pink albino and keep the blue flower on the melan.

I do agree about the old flower being better and albino shaymin now is..just not as good, I was mostly referencing the melan but yea, to me overall melan shaymin is better now than before but some of these changes has made me feel like it's not even worth hunting most melans until the changes come to see if I even like them. I'm glad I didn't hunt drifloon, shellos or porygon before these changes Dx

What I am mostly wondering is, what is the baseline for albino and melan choices in general now? Since you guys were wondering about changing albino and melan names since they are less accurate now some of the time? And you also mentioned you yourself didnt even like some of the melan choices.. so I really wonder why are they coloured in these ways in which even the creators may be dissatisfied with them? I also wonder about why the revamps *have to* follow shiny colouring as a base line for colouring albino and melans. ~~ sorry if this is something which was discussed once before, I just sort of wanted to know what is supposed to be the norm for albinos and melans and what the rules are for them if theres set rules on them when being revamped???

We put colour choices to a vote and the ones that are most liked amongst the staff we use. Like I said, Drifloon is a personal dislike of mine. To clarify: I like teal, I like the colour combo we used on the melan in general. It was not my choice for the revamped melan sprite. My first choice was actually a red based melan colour Shiny colourations are only used for melans, Albinos follow the normal pokemon colouration pattern. We felt as a team that if we are going to recolour the pokemon, there is a pattern between the normals and shinies already established, logically, keeping that pattern but playing with the colours made sense. There's a LONG post about that somewhere else in this thread but the gist of it is: There's a pattern that already exists, we use it has a starting point and change colours from there.

Yeah my poor fairy albino shaymin has lost its aesthetic vibe and I probably blew through 5-10k DP on that hunt since legends cost so much DP. Which it was my own fault because I knew it would be changing but I just had to have it. At least the changes can shift some of my interests in future hunts. I think a lot of the melans would look even cooler as deltas since they have less competing colors.

Thank you for the responses Shazi that does make more sense that they are voted on though I guess I wish I could see the other options for some of the changes, I had one last question regarding the sprites choices and recent changes since I was actually curious about one of them, being Rotom but I believe your response actually answers the question there. I really love the new albinos how they have different electric aura around them in each of the albino colourings, I thought it was really cool that they have it now but it was at a loss at the melans. I was wondering about it since it only shows up in the albinos now, and not the new melan line (I am a little sad the melan lost this). I am assuming it is because of the shiny to melan and regular to albino choice there that they were swapped then? Since my other post was saying how I was sad at Pachirisus change I guess I do have to say, for once I love one of the albino changes on this one. ^^

@Shazi - Thank you for posting a response! It's really appreciated hearing from someone from art staff that you guys are at least discussing things, even if changes don't happen it's really nice to feel like as a userbase our concerns are being looked at/discussed. (I was personally concerned our opinions/thoughts were going to be swept under the "Changing the name of Albino/Melan" rug and we weren't going to hear anything about possible adjustments to current Albinos/Melans) Now that you mention the small shiny updates to cresselia and those updates making the melan be adjusted further I get it. I know someone said a few pages back that the Shiny was changed & I know melans are based on shinys, but it still just spaced how that might effect cresselia - even a small adjustment to the shiny such as that. Personally I think the green on the melan is really stunning I just dislike the red + green, it's very christmas/holiday vibes if that makes sense. I know someone else expressed disdain for the green and liking the red, it's difficult but overall it just comes down to personal preference sometimes and there isn't much that can be done about it, but even so I just feel like the melan could be tweaked ever so slightly to just make the colors look better together if the same colors are kept. Even if Cresselia is not changed, I appreciate the art staff taking in and considering input from some users. Thank you for the communication, it is appreciated and if you have the time I hope you will continue to communicate with us. Thank you once again.

hey!! thanks for the reply! here's some suggestions maybe? i think the updated chimchar line melans might be more well-recieved if they were changed to purple like the original melans. maybe a kind of violet-blue if you're worried about it looking like a darker version of the shiny? (since making magenta darker can look like purple.) the biggest issue for me is honestly the purple hands/feet/ear insides on the shiny being replaced with a kind of out of place looking yellow-green on the melan. the albino on the other hand doesn't look too bad, but the albino sprites are kind of muddy and features are pretty hard to distinguish, especially if you're like me and are using a dark site skin. i honestly could take or leave the albinos but i'm really, really elated you guys are considering changing the chimchar line's melans. i'm sorry if this comes off as rude, i'm just... really passionate about inferape and its pre-evos LOL

Thanks for the response Shazi! I guess I didn't realize how yellow/orange shiny chansey is, so I thought of them all as variations of pink, which is why I was surprised that the melans seemed so drastically different. It's greatly appreciated that you'll consider bringing blissey's colors towards happiny :) On a separate note: Did Primal Dialga and Palkia not get updated sprites? I thought they would've since they are a part of a sinnoh line even though they're PFQ mons.