Changing the evolution requirement for Pawmot

Suggestion Title:Changing the evolution requirement for Pawmot Suggestion Summary:Changing Pawmots evolution requirement to 1000 interactions instead of 1000 steps on the pokewalker Positive points:Would allow those unable to walk long distances or those without mobile devices to evolve Pawmo into Pawmot Negative points:Not accurate to the games and forgos the usage of an otherwise rarely used mechanic Reason For Consideration:Not everyone has access to a smart phone or any other kind of mobile device, add on the fact that many people simply can not walk the distance due to health issues and it becomes an impossible task for some people. As stated within the Summary of Rejected Suggestions "PFQ may be playable on a mobile platform, but its primary design is for PCs" and this evolution mechanic contradicts that statement due to being unable to meet the evolution requirements on just a PC

Tbh, I agree, or maybe have an alternate method based on, idk, scouring or something. In my experience the Pokewalker is finicky on some devices, even ones that are GPS enabled, and the only reason I think we don't see more complaints is that it's a small and often overlooked feature. And while I trust PFQ for the most part, I'm sure there's some who would prefer not to share their specific location data at all, who maybe even use VPNs regularly for their own privacy. I know people can offer dexing/evolution services for those who can't/won't use the walker, but tbh this is even worse than Dusk Lycanroc imo - at least the IRL time of "dusk" shifts throughout the year, so most people can get it eventually. (Personally, I'm looking forward to trying this out later today, but I'm sure there's plenty who are already pulling their hair out over it)

I actually agree with this 100% I'm not someone who uses the PokeWalker and I personally feel like there should be an alternative way to get it to evolve like 1000 interactions, a few pokeblocks, high happiness or just simply trade it with someone and have them trade it back to you for the dex entry

It's not often that I disagree with you - usually your views are ones that I completely agree with - but on this occasion I must disagree with the view that needing to trade is any kind of bad thing. This is a multiplayer game, with thousands of players each with different abilities to play the game. Alone, you can do very little - you can't even hatch Eggs without involving other players (even if it's just as targets for your Lucky Egg interactions) but together everything is possible. If anything, the addition of Pawmo>Pawmot using the PokéWalker has just created another market opportunity for users to make use of, and I can only describe that as a very good thing.

I don't like the idea of using the walker, just because I can't walk without my service dog and i don't want to vest him just to do the evo, but then again like other said, we can just pay for the dex... Or pay someone to walk our poke for us to evolve it...

While I get where the suggestion is coming from, well... I think it should stay as it is. The main reason I'd like it to stay this way is that the Pokewalker is already quite underused; the most you can do with it is use the dowsing machine to get minor items and hunt for wild Pokemon that have other easy means of obtaining. With a Pokemon requiring the use of the Pokewalker in order to evolve, this site feature gets a little additional use rather than relegating the evolution method to something that doesn't match the canon even when there's an opportunity to have it both make sense and also give a neglected feature more of a purpose. I haven't used the Pokewalker in a long time because I had no reason to, but with Pawmo's evolution method I can definitely see the Pokewalker being used a little now. Another reason is that I think it encourages people to take a walk if they want to evolve their Pawmo - for example while interacting or feeding it Pokeblocks instead does sound easier and more convenient, aside from it not falling in line with the canon evolution method being taking it for walkies, it's probably more healthy to actually put it in the Pokewalker and go out for a bit to amass those 1000 steps than to sit for a while and amass 1000 interactions (how would this work by the way? Would the Pawmot need to be in the party for the interactions to count or are fields fine?). In fact I'd think that 1000 interactions are harder, because you use energy with your hands to click and clicking too much can cause hand problems such as carpal tunnel; on the flipside, using that energy to walk not only fills up the steps needed to evolve Pawmo but also gets you some outdoor exercise. And even if you can't or don't want to do this, there's always trading as an option. You'd just need someone who already has the Pokemon to dex/trade to you or who will do the Pokewalker steps for you. In addition, the Shelter sometimes provides you with evolved Pokemon that other people have released - these can even include things like legendaries and specials, so something like a Pawmot in the Shelter shouldn't be a stretch if someone for example goes out of their way to take walks to evolve a bunch of Pawmo and then release them. Those are my two cents.

I mean I understand, but I still disagree to some extent. I know people will find ways to get it done, but it feels like a workaround for something that shouldn't need to be worked around? (I don't think I'm saying that right sorry) I guess it's maybe more emotional than logical to me? Like it feels like being locked out, excluded from a feature that is suddenly relevant, vs just being some sort of community driven feature. I think I'd get over it pretty quick, but if I still had my last phone which had a GPS so wonky I could barely play Go, I'd definitely be disappointed. Uh, to build off that, there's also accessibility concerns? This specific feature isn't a problem for me, and so I don't want to speak out of turn, but it seems to me that it might sting more to see something you *can't* do, when others can, and it's not just a matter of both parties needing to cooperate (traditional trade evolution) or being impractical (dusk, collecting all megas). Again, back to the workaround thing - it can be worked around, but does it have to be? If there was a scour-based alternative or something, I think it should be harder like totems vs easier like Burmy, to encourage use of the "primary" method. Time gating is often unpopular but I feel it might be appropriate here. (I'm not super invested in this tbh, just wanted to explain more where I was coming from)

I personally don't mind if it stays or changes. I am someone who doesn't use the PokeWalker mainly because I couldn't be bothered setting it up and I had Pokemon go for fun. As for Pawmos evolution I did wonder how it would be implemented. I for one thought about Scour missions. Maybe instead of outright changing why not implement both for all users accessability? Maybe though making it like 100 scour missions? That way the Pokewalker is the easiest way and it would take 100 hours for Pawmo to evolve via the scour method? Just a quick thought~

i definitely think that it'd be good for it to change - there are workarounds, but like mirzam said, it doesn't really need to be something that Needs a workaround. i walked almost about a mile around ten minutes ago and stopped with 849 steps. i definitely walked more than that, and my phone was in my hand. i'm not complaining, just saying that the system is very wonky and it isn't accurate; it just leads to More Work having to be put in. a lot of things on pfq are incredibly difficult, and sometimes downright impossible, to do on your own. i don't think that this is bad or anything, but when it comes to the pokewalker, it's kind of different. you don't need to physically move to do a trade evolution on site. you don't need to get out any walking gear (or vest up your service animal like @lakaishia mentioned) like you would have to to be able to evolve the pawmi line. i myself have chronic back pain that makes it super hard to stand, walk, otherwise move for long periods of time. even walking just those 849 steps, it was getting to the point where my back was hurting more than it normally does, which is a pretty good signal that i need to take a minute to sit down, recover, and then start again. i'm still super physically active and i didn't even get to 1k steps without needing to relax. i think that the goal could either be lowered or changed, because while you Could pay someone to do it for you, or to just get the dex, i really don't feel like you should have to. there's a lot of users on this site who are disabled or otherwise are going to have a harder time getting to that 1k step goal than others, and i don't think that's very fair. and plus, like said in the original suggest, not everyone has a phone! not everyone has data or an ability to use that phone or tablet or whatever outside of an area with wifi. i think that's also pretty unfair to those people, who genuinely have no other choice than to have to get a dex or just pay someone else to do it. i agree that pfq is a multiplayer site, and it makes sense that there are things that you need to do with other people. i just don't think that this is one of them.

This sums up my feelings quite well. I can't use the pokewalker and will likely never be able to. I know I can get the dex entry but this basically means that I can never get my own pawmo and evolve it myself. Yes I could probably find someone who would evolve it for me, but that's really not the same thing. Trade evos involve a second person, but we can still be the one to actually make the evolution happen. So... Yes, interacting with others is essential for this site, but I do feel like this site is really inclusive in some ways... But now we're left with some (likely a small proportion I know) of the userbase totally excluded from one evolution, entirely because of something out of our control. It's a shame. It's not the end of the world - just means I likely won't bother with that line beyond the dex entries, but... It is definitely a shame to be excluded from something on a site that's otherwise really inclusive - actually impressively so at times. It would be far better (and more inclusive) to bring in a second method, even if it would be really difficult, time consuming or even just expensive. Then those who can use the pokewalker would have a good incentive to do so, but those who can't wouldn't be totally excluded and left relying on others due to circumstances out of their control.