Caps & Mints

There was recently a suggestion for implementing Mints but it was rejected because Niet thinks it's a game-breaking feature (I was trying to find that thread but it looks like it was deleted). I'm not entirely sure but I think Bottle Caps were suggested too but were rejected as well for the same reason.

I think I remember the bottlecap one a long time ago, but I was never sure about one for mints and I think there weren't reasonable limits at the time of the original suggestion. I fail to see how itll be game breaking for the mere fact a pokemon must be raised to Level 100 to use one, not to mention the rarity of bottlecaps and mints themselves. We can even do it so there's a differnet mint for each nature and a different cap for each stat to encourage trading and further increase rarity.

Im laughing so hard at this because i too spent the better part of the last half hour looking for the thread leacky talks about. This isnt the same feature but heres a basic summary of what niets answer was to a suggestion similar to this. In the actual response to a suggestion similar to this one he further explains that he thinks mints and i suppose by extension, bottle caps, are game breaking items in the main series game that he personally thinks shouldn't have even been implemented in the first place (and I completely agree with him to be honest) But yeah, no support because it takes the difficulty out of iv breeding and nature breeding which would really spit in the faces of users on this site who put a lot of effort into those things to make is basically super easy to get good ivs and natures from items.

I think there is a bit of an... Over limit? Idk how to said it, but the fact thats is - as rare as arceus flûte - only usable on level 100 - not usable in breeding Really limit the utility of those item. While I understand the reason, I feel like the level 100 part should be removed. I have also a question about Pokémon whose evolution is depending on stats or nature... How would it work?

@Terrabit That's fair, I can see that point of view, but personally I support this being added because I think it would help beginners be on a more equal playing field with advanced breeders with more resources. ('specially since well, free 6IV dittos arent a thing like they were in gens 6, 7 & even 8) @Nightmon I intentionally super nerfed the suggestion because I KNOW it's been rejected before, and I really, really wanna see this happen. I tried to make it as less game break as possible, and if I were to edit a limit it'd be the rarity, considering the only usable on level 100 thing and the not usable in breeding thing are canon to the main series. In regards to evolution based on stats or nature: - Evolution based on nature would default to the original nature, not minted. - Evolution based on stat totals is based on stat TOTALS, so bottlecaps and mints would affect, but why would you be waiting till level 100 to evolve a tyrouge anyway?

no opinion / no support i dont really see a point in it? both have been rejected, and if it's to give breeding equity in the way you describe then i don't really think it would fit on site. in the games, both items' effects couldn't carry down or be used to help with breeding. so they really have no use to be used for breeding purposes here :(

Please no. This would break already almost non existent IV market and ruin IV breeders. 1. Getting +180IV pokemon with right nature is extremely easy, and a lot of IV breeders give out 5IVs for free. So instead of buying a fairly expensive 6IV from a breeder (who spent a lot of time and effort trying to hatch it), you can just get 5IV for free and use items to max out it's IVs and/or change nature, making 6IV hunts pointless. 2. How can you tell mints or caps weren't used? Because if you couldn't tell from looking at it in someone's field, people would be able to sell 6IVs, I buy and try to breed them only to realise, hey, they have been IV boosted so I can't IV breed them properly. 3. During spars, pokemon are set to LV50 meaning that max IVs don't give that big of a boost. A lot of factors are at play when it comes to spars and max IV isn't making that big of a change, especially if you say want pokemon with low speed and nature that decreases speed. No need for 6IV in that case. (I can provide examples if needed?) Besides, leveling to 100 has nothing to do with spars or training. 4. Natures do give quite a nice boost but again it will devalue the actual work that goes into IV breeding, making it literally too easy to get what you want. And on top of that you are unable to breed it. Having a pokemon you only battle with without the ability to breed it, in my opinion, makes it less valuable. It's only good for one thing, while my 6IV with right nature I spent a lot of time in getting can both IV and nature breed. :D 5. Destiny Knot already has issues with sometimes not passing down 5IVs if taken out despite parents holding it as the egg was created and adopted, and on extremely rare occasions not passing down any at all. I feel like this would just cause more problems when it comes to IV breeding in terms of what can be correctly passed down. 6. It was already rejected. So please no. Just go find IV breeders or make a thread asking for high or 5IV bred pokemon with right nature. I know a lot of IV breeders, myself included, who have full fields of 5 and 6IV pokemon with great natures that can't be sold because there is a lack of interest.

Ah, i think you misunderstand me? This woulnd't affect breeding, but it would provide competitive battling equity.

It makes breeding irrelevant since you can just take any mediocre individual and make it perfect. Mints and Bottle caps and the Ability Capsule are utterly game breaking items that should never have been added to the official games. I will not make their mistake.